Simson & Co. P 08 # 4141 with matching magazine

DonVoigt · 10-21-2016, 11:07 AM

New to me Simson "Army" P 08 # 4141 with matching magazine.

The good:
-not often found with a matching magazine
- small parts matching (except an Erfurt breech block

). Even the extractor and striker are marked "41", Erfurt breech block is #26, darn.
-Didn't cost an arm and a leg, just an arm.

The not so good:
mismatched as noted, refinished, import marked.

Edward Tinker · 10-21-2016, 12:28 PM

I know you have it in hand - not sure I would immediately say its been refinished?

but then I looked at the swirl markings on the ears and the acceptance and proof - pretty light...

looks like a decent piece, right below, smack dab in the middle first 10,000

DonVoigt · 10-21-2016, 07:44 PM

Ed,
you are correct- "part" of the pistol may be original, and some refinished.
I know it did not start life with the Erfurt breech block, as the block has fine pitting under the blue- there is no pitting anywhere else on the pistol.

I is a mystery how so many parts stayed together, the grip screws and ejector are also e/6; but no e/6 on the correct numbered extractor or striker.

Maybe you can have a look in Feb., if we both make the show in Louisville.

10-21-2016, 11:07 AM	#1
DonVoigt User Join Date: Apr 2015 Location: near Charlotte NC Posts: 4,678 Thanks: 1,441 Thanked 4,348 Times in 2,038 Posts	Simson & Co. P 08 # 4141 with matching magazine New to me Simson "Army" P 08 # 4141 with matching magazine. The good: -not often found with a matching magazine - small parts matching (except an Erfurt breech block). Even the extractor and striker are marked "41", Erfurt breech block is #26, darn. -Didn't cost an arm and a leg, just an arm. The not so good: mismatched as noted, refinished, import marked. Attached Thumbnails Attached Images __________________ 03man(Don Voigt); Luger student and collector. Looking for DWM side plate: 69 ; Dreyse 1907 pistol K.S. Gendarmerie

10-21-2016, 07:44 PM	#3
DonVoigt User Join Date: Apr 2015 Location: near Charlotte NC Posts: 4,678 Thanks: 1,441 Thanked 4,348 Times in 2,038 Posts	Ed, you are correct- "part" of the pistol may be original, and some refinished. I know it did not start life with the Erfurt breech block, as the block has fine pitting under the blue- there is no pitting anywhere else on the pistol. I is a mystery how so many parts stayed together, the grip screws and ejector are also e/6; but no e/6 on the correct numbered extractor or striker. Maybe you can have a look in Feb., if we both make the show in Louisville. __________________ 03man(Don Voigt); Luger student and collector. Looking for DWM side plate: 69 ; Dreyse 1907 pistol K.S. Gendarmerie

10-21-2016, 12:28 PM	#2
Edward Tinker Super Moderator Eternal Lifer LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: North of Spokane, WA Posts: 15,917 Thanks: 1,996 Thanked 4,507 Times in 2,081 Posts	I know you have it in hand - not sure I would immediately say its been refinished? but then I looked at the swirl markings on the ears and the acceptance and proof - pretty light... looks like a decent piece, right below, smack dab in the middle first 10,000