If Winchester 115 white box is not available

jonnyc · 05-30-2016, 05:06 PM

Just got 5 boxes of Perfecta today. Can't recall if I've run any through a Luger, but it has run just fine in any other 9mms I've tried it through.
I had so much trouble with Remington 9x19 and .22lr that I will no longer buy it. I still have a case or two of the 9mm stashed away; hope I never have to use it. Guess I'll keep it for trading fodder to them city folks.

G.T. · 05-30-2016, 05:32 PM

Hi just got a bunch of NOS UMC and Rem 9mm ammo, both older, but not real old, with Styrofoam trays, and newer, green white boxes with plastic trays. Rem ball, 50 round boxes...... Well, I was going to give the Rem ammo away as it has caused me many, many sleepless nights during drum testing... But, just for the hell of it, I got out my digital calipers and measured a few random samples..... AND,.....

.... Holy crap batman!..... All the yellow box UMC (Remington manufacture) and the yellow and green box Remington in the Styrofoam trays measured the same as the win. White box Target /range ammo?????? The new stuff in the plastic trays measured an average of .050" to .060" shorter in OAL.....

... THAT'S A LOT! almost 1/16" .... So, now I'm going to have to try the older Rem and see if it works... I'm not too sure about of what all I think I know quite yet?... But, I will find out! Best to all, til....lat'r....GT.....

Eugen · 05-31-2016, 11:05 AM

Just wanted to report that I found Win WB 115gn on sale at both Gander Mountain and Academy Sports for $25.99 for 100 ct box. I grabbed two boxes.

kurusu · 05-31-2016, 03:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Eugen

Just wanted to report that I found Win WB 115gn on sale at both Gander Mountain and Academy Sports for $25.99 for 100 ct box. I grabbed two boxes.

Just curious. How many rounds in a box?

Edit: Dumb me missed that the first time.

rhuff · 05-31-2016, 03:54 PM

100 ct.

kurusu · 05-31-2016, 06:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Eugen

Just wanted to report that I found Win WB 115gn on sale at both Gander Mountain and Academy Sports for $25.99 for 100 ct box. I grabbed two boxes.

So they are like these, right?

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Bought me 20 boxes wen they were available. Made two great seasons while they lasted.

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Eugen · 05-31-2016, 09:49 PM

Perhaps this photo taken at Academy will answer the questions.

G.T. · 06-02-2016, 08:48 AM

I use that exact ammo, Win. White Box Target / Range 115 gr. ball, exclusively when testing!!!! Only, only complaint is........ It's really dirty to shoot.... guns a mess when done!!! Still, it works in drums, and great in Lugers in general!, And, that's about as far as I care!!!

... Best to all, til....lat'r....GT....

K.Wilhelm · 06-19-2016, 11:19 AM

I generally like to use my handloads in Lugers. Nothing wrong with WWB; but per advice from Sieger & others when I started shooting Lugers, I load the 9mm rounds longer than factory for Lugers. The results have been excellent. Handloading also allows me to experiment with different powders, although I pretty well stick to a moderate load of Green Dot.

Bill

Dwight Gruber · 06-19-2016, 12:44 PM

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Originally Posted by G.T.

...the new stuff in the plastic trays measured an average of .050" to .060" shorter in OAL.....

... THAT'S A LOT! almost 1/16"...

The SAAMI maximum OAL spec for the 9x19 cartridge = the original DWM minimum OAL spec. Instant problem.

--Dwight (late to the party)

05-30-2016, 05:32 PM	#2
G.T. Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Chandler Arizona Posts: 3,528 Thanks: 1,334 Thanked 3,711 Times in 1,014 Posts	Gas on the fire!!! Hi just got a bunch of NOS UMC and Rem 9mm ammo, both older, but not real old, with Styrofoam trays, and newer, green white boxes with plastic trays. Rem ball, 50 round boxes...... Well, I was going to give the Rem ammo away as it has caused me many, many sleepless nights during drum testing... But, just for the hell of it, I got out my digital calipers and measured a few random samples..... AND,......... Holy crap batman!..... All the yellow box UMC (Remington manufacture) and the yellow and green box Remington in the Styrofoam trays measured the same as the win. White box Target /range ammo?????? The new stuff in the plastic trays measured an average of .050" to .060" shorter in OAL........ THAT'S A LOT! almost 1/16" .... So, now I'm going to have to try the older Rem and see if it works... I'm not too sure about of what all I think I know quite yet?... But, I will find out! Best to all, til....lat'r....GT.....

05-31-2016, 11:05 AM	#3
Eugen User Join Date: Apr 2016 Location: Newburgh,IN Posts: 796 Thanks: 403 Thanked 639 Times in 338 Posts	Just wanted to report that I found Win WB 115gn on sale at both Gander Mountain and Academy Sports for $25.99 for 100 ct box. I grabbed two boxes. Attached Thumbnails __________________ “God created war so that Americans would learn geography.” ― Mark Twain Last edited by Eugen; 05-31-2016 at 09:34 PM. Reason: Added photo

05-31-2016, 09:49 PM	#7
Eugen User Join Date: Apr 2016 Location: Newburgh,IN Posts: 796 Thanks: 403 Thanked 639 Times in 338 Posts	Perhaps this photo taken at Academy will answer the questions. Attached Thumbnails __________________ “God created war so that Americans would learn geography.” ― Mark Twain

06-02-2016, 08:48 AM	#8
G.T. Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Chandler Arizona Posts: 3,528 Thanks: 1,334 Thanked 3,711 Times in 1,014 Posts	That's the stuff! I use that exact ammo, Win. White Box Target / Range 115 gr. ball, exclusively when testing!!!! Only, only complaint is........ It's really dirty to shoot.... guns a mess when done!!! Still, it works in drums, and great in Lugers in general!, And, that's about as far as I care!!! ... Best to all, til....lat'r....GT....

06-19-2016, 11:19 AM	#9
K.Wilhelm User Join Date: Jun 2013 Location: South Central Colorado Posts: 215 Thanks: 45 Thanked 109 Times in 66 Posts	Handloads in Lugers I generally like to use my handloads in Lugers. Nothing wrong with WWB; but per advice from Sieger & others when I started shooting Lugers, I load the 9mm rounds longer than factory for Lugers. The results have been excellent. Handloading also allows me to experiment with different powders, although I pretty well stick to a moderate load of Green Dot. Bill __________________ NRA Endowment Life member Proud veteran of the Naval Security Group

05-30-2016, 05:06 PM	#1
jonnyc User Join Date: Dec 2008 Posts: 425 Thanks: 2 Thanked 46 Times in 34 Posts	Just got 5 boxes of Perfecta today. Can't recall if I've run any through a Luger, but it has run just fine in any other 9mms I've tried it through. I had so much trouble with Remington 9x19 and .22lr that I will no longer buy it. I still have a case or two of the 9mm stashed away; hope I never have to use it. Guess I'll keep it for trading fodder to them city folks.

05-31-2016, 03:54 PM	#5
rhuff Patron LugerForum Patron Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: Az. Posts: 2,308 Thanks: 2,737 Thanked 993 Times in 729 Posts	100 ct.