Lugers in combat

Roadkill · 05-01-2016, 06:10 PM

Found this - Die Deutsche Wochenschau - 1941-07-23 - Nr. 568 - this was the German WWII weekly propaganda show. At the 9:40 mark a segment starts about a Waffen SS unit taking a Russian village against heavy resistance (previous segment is very nasty about civilians executed by retreating Russians) - There are Lugers shown during house clearing. The statement at the end tells the photographer was killed while filming this.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IjBk0zWZlCs

kurusu · 05-01-2016, 06:38 PM

Even though NAZI propaganda leaves me quite cold.

It's a very interesting historic document. Thank you.

Zorba · 05-03-2016, 04:23 PM

Impressive film - the Nazis sure knew how to put something like that together.

Besides seeing our Lugers in action, I particularly enjoyed seeing "real" vehicles of all types without all the stinkin' "technology" we're saddled with these days. Nice!

Sergio Natali · 05-04-2016, 03:16 AM

Randall

Interesting document, although all that Nazi propaganda gives me the creeps...

Roadkill · 05-04-2016, 09:09 AM

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Originally Posted by luger.parabellum

Randall

Interesting document, although all that Nazi propaganda gives me the creeps...

No question about it being propaganda - I watch that series so much that I recognize the reporters and many of the individual soldiers. I just posted it for the Lugers though.

Eugen · 05-04-2016, 09:34 AM

These are interesting historical films. As to propaganda, well most certainly there is a strong element of propaganda. All nations do this particularly during war times; some do it better than others. The home front needs motivation and encouragement to continue to sacrifice and support the government's war effort.

As for now looking back, and peeling through the propaganda, this serves as a very interesting historical work and window into the Nazi perspective on these battle events.

Roadkill, thanks for sharing.

mrerick · 05-04-2016, 10:06 AM

The initial scenes of countries sending their young men to war like this were filmed in every nation with the enthusiasm typically felt before the deadly conflicts to come.

The production quality of the weekly newsreels from Germany dropped as the war progressed. This one is filmed with skill and care...

alanint · 05-04-2016, 12:22 PM

It is always interesting to analyze the voice over wording in late war Nazi propaganda, when the truth was getting harder to hide from the populace. "Our glorious troops today effected a skillful strategic consolidation of its forces two miles behind where they had previously been entrenched in order to lure the Soviets into a trap along the new line of resistance".

Sergio Natali · 05-05-2016, 06:02 AM

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Originally Posted by alanint

It is always interesting to analyze the voice over wording in late war Nazi propaganda, when the truth was getting harder to hide from the populace. "Our glorious troops today effected a skillful strategic consolidation of its forces two miles behind where they had previously been entrenched in order to lure the Soviets into a trap along the new line of resistance".

Propaganda films are similar all over the World, especially if they are released by dictatorial regimes by controlled media, for example here in Italy in the same period the Fascist Regime used to extoll the amazing feats by "our glorius troops in Russia", but in reality those poor soldiers had been sent there only to meet the ambitions of the "dictator", without proper chothing, they were lacking everything, from ammo to food... and in fact thousands and thousands of them didn't manage to come back any more.

flydive · 05-05-2016, 10:15 AM

I have an old book about air war in WW2, all made with official dispatches from all sides.

It's quite interesting to see the totally opposing takes about the same operation.

05-01-2016, 06:10 PM	#1
Roadkill User Join Date: Jun 2002 Posts: 1,632 Thanks: 1 Thanked 28 Times in 17 Posts	Lugers in combat Found this - Die Deutsche Wochenschau - 1941-07-23 - Nr. 568 - this was the German WWII weekly propaganda show. At the 9:40 mark a segment starts about a Waffen SS unit taking a Russian village against heavy resistance (previous segment is very nasty about civilians executed by retreating Russians) - There are Lugers shown during house clearing. The statement at the end tells the photographer was killed while filming this. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IjBk0zWZlCs

05-04-2016, 03:16 AM	#4
Sergio Natali User Join Date: Feb 2013 Location: Somewhere in Northern Italy Posts: 2,646 Thanks: 1,082 Thanked 1,783 Times in 1,007 Posts	Randall Interesting document, although all that Nazi propaganda gives me the creeps... __________________ "Originality can't be restored and should be at the top of any collector's priority list.

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mrerick Super Moderator - Patron LugerForum Life Patron Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Eastern North Carolina, USA Posts: 3,900 Thanks: 1,372 Thanked 3,094 Times in 1,503 Posts	The initial scenes of countries sending their young men to war like this were filmed in every nation with the enthusiasm typically felt before the deadly conflicts to come. The production quality of the weekly newsreels from Germany dropped as the war progressed. This one is filmed with skill and care... __________________ Igitur si vis pacem, para bellum - - Therefore if you want peace, prepare for war.

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kurusu User Join Date: Sep 2007 Posts: 1,225 Thanks: 2,679 Thanked 929 Times in 509 Posts	Even though NAZI propaganda leaves me quite cold. It's a very interesting historic document. Thank you.

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Zorba User Join Date: Feb 2013 Location: Merritt Island, Fl Posts: 951 Thanks: 776 Thanked 526 Times in 289 Posts	Impressive film - the Nazis sure knew how to put something like that together. Besides seeing our Lugers in action, I particularly enjoyed seeing "real" vehicles of all types without all the stinkin' "technology" we're saddled with these days. Nice!

05-04-2016, 09:34 AM	#6
Eugen User Join Date: Apr 2016 Location: Newburgh,IN Posts: 768 Thanks: 370 Thanked 602 Times in 320 Posts	These are interesting historical films. As to propaganda, well most certainly there is a strong element of propaganda. All nations do this particularly during war times; some do it better than others. The home front needs motivation and encouragement to continue to sacrifice and support the government's war effort. As for now looking back, and peeling through the propaganda, this serves as a very interesting historical work and window into the Nazi perspective on these battle events. Roadkill, thanks for sharing.

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alanint User Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Marco Island, Florida Posts: 4,867 Thanks: 1,685 Thanked 1,916 Times in 1,192 Posts	It is always interesting to analyze the voice over wording in late war Nazi propaganda, when the truth was getting harder to hide from the populace. "Our glorious troops today effected a skillful strategic consolidation of its forces two miles behind where they had previously been entrenched in order to lure the Soviets into a trap along the new line of resistance".

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flydive User Join Date: Feb 2015 Location: Switzerland Posts: 63 Thanks: 1 Thanked 45 Times in 23 Posts	I have an old book about air war in WW2, all made with official dispatches from all sides. It's quite interesting to see the totally opposing takes about the same operation.