belt and holster for model 1900 American Eagle Luger - Page 2

Ron Wood · 10-16-2002, 02:51 AM

Bender does not show any holsters by Hibbard Spencer Bartlett & Co. But if he had known about yours, you can bet your boots he would have included it!! It is interesting to note that Bender does show pocket holsters much like Orv Reicherts Savage holster by HSB & Co that were made/sold by Abercrombe & Fitch and by F. Ronstadt Co. of Tucson, AZ, for the Luger.

John Sabato · 10-16-2002, 01:48 PM

Don Beasley's photographs have been collected into a new album in the Member Gallery at his request.

don beasley · 10-17-2002, 01:24 AM

my thanks to wes and john for the album dedicated to the Robert Musgrave Luger and holster

today I visited the previous owner and regrettably she does not the ideal stock to match the grips. But, she did have two matching magazines, with small marks on the wooden bottom that look like a circle with flames out of the top.

I have more information concerning Robert Musgrave, but will wait until I have done some research at the provincial archives.

When i got this Luger and holster i had no idea it would be so interesting.

thanks for your guidance and advice.

wterrell · 11-27-2004, 10:08 AM

(I am making this post on behalf of Don Beasley)
(These additional pics of the Musgrave Luger were a few that I had rattling around on my hard drive. wterrell)

The text of my initial post needs correction: Robert Musgrave purchased the luger for his trip to Mexico, where he was an engineer at a silver mine, not for his trip to China after WW1.

Also, his granddaughter, susan musgrave, through whom I purchased this Luger from her mother, is a well know Canadian poet and author.

don

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Edward Tinker · 11-27-2004, 02:22 PM

Wes, this is one of those great posts. Wonderful old piece of history, thanks for helping!

Ed

maddog350gt · 11-28-2004, 08:19 PM

Don, as I don't see any response here on the forum about your two extra magazines I thought I would send this along. Your description of the mark on the magazines suggest that they were surplus US Army test eagle magazines. These were marked with a US flaming bomb proof or acceptance mark. I am not a magazine expert and I am sure that there are others here with more expertise, but if you are curious try to load a picture of the mark on the magazines for the group to comment on. Your 1900 AE is not a test eagle as it has the Germany stamp, but the magazines being sold as surplus would have been contemporary with the period when your luger was originally acquired. This Luger rig is an exceptional find and makes you the envy of many, including myself. Congratulations on an outstanding early Luger rig.

Bob M.

John Sabato · 11-30-2004, 10:32 AM

Wes, thanks for the additional photos of the Musgrave Luger... I will add them to the Member Gallery Album as soon as time permits...

10-16-2002, 02:51 AM	#21
Ron Wood Moderator 2010 LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Santa Teresa New Mexico just outside of the West Texas town of El Paso Posts: 7,040 Thanks: 1,106 Thanked 5,256 Times in 1,724 Posts	Bender does not show any holsters by Hibbard Spencer Bartlett & Co. But if he had known about yours, you can bet your boots he would have included it!! It is interesting to note that Bender does show pocket holsters much like Orv Reicherts Savage holster by HSB & Co that were made/sold by Abercrombe & Fitch and by F. Ronstadt Co. of Tucson, AZ, for the Luger. __________________ If it's made after 1918...it's a reproduction

10-16-2002, 01:48 PM	#22
John Sabato Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: The Capital of the Free World Posts: 10,155 Thanks: 3,003 Thanked 2,308 Times in 1,098 Posts	Don Beasley's photographs have been collected into a new album in the Member Gallery at his request. __________________ regards, -John S "...We hold these truths to be self-evident that ALL men are created EQUAL *and are endowed by their Creator* with certain UNALIENABLE* rights, and among these are life, LIBERTY, and the pursuit of happiness..."*

10-17-2002, 01:24 AM	#23
don beasley User Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Victoria, British Columbia, Canada Posts: 20 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	my thanks to wes and john for the album dedicated to the Robert Musgrave Luger and holster today I visited the previous owner and regrettably she does not the ideal stock to match the grips. But, she did have two matching magazines, with small marks on the wooden bottom that look like a circle with flames out of the top. I have more information concerning Robert Musgrave, but will wait until I have done some research at the provincial archives. When i got this Luger and holster i had no idea it would be so interesting. thanks for your guidance and advice. __________________ Don Beasley

11-27-2004, 10:08 AM	#24
wterrell User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Colorado Posts: 1,096 Thanks: 0 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post	(I am making this post on behalf of Don Beasley) (These additional pics of the Musgrave Luger were a few that I had rattling around on my hard drive. wterrell) The text of my initial post needs correction: Robert Musgrave purchased the luger for his trip to Mexico, where he was an engineer at a silver mine, not for his trip to China after WW1. Also, his granddaughter, susan musgrave, through whom I purchased this Luger from her mother, is a well know Canadian poet and author. don <a href="http://gallery.rennlist.com/lugeralbums/albun01/Image015.jpg" target="_fullview"><img src="http://gallery.rennlist.com/lugeralbums/albun01/Image015.jpg" width="400" alt="Click for fullsize image" /></a> <a href="http://gallery.rennlist.com/lugeralbums/albun01/Image016.jpg" target="_fullview"><img src="http://gallery.rennlist.com/lugeralbums/albun01/Image016.jpg" width="400" alt="Click for fullsize image" /></a> <a href="http://gallery.rennlist.com/lugeralbums/albun01/Image017.jpg" target="_fullview"><img src="http://gallery.rennlist.com/lugeralbums/albun01/Image017.jpg" width="400" alt="Click for fullsize image" /></a> <a href="http://gallery.rennlist.com/lugeralbums/albun01/Image018.jpg" target="_fullview"><img src="http://gallery.rennlist.com/lugeralbums/albun01/Image018.jpg" width="400" alt="Click for fullsize image" /></a> __________________ Noli me vocare, ego te vocabo, wes --------------------

11-27-2004, 02:22 PM	#25
Edward Tinker Super Moderator Eternal Lifer LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: North of Spokane, WA Posts: 15,966 Thanks: 2,066 Thanked 4,595 Times in 2,116 Posts	Wes, this is one of those great posts. Wonderful old piece of history, thanks for helping! Ed __________________ Edward Tinker ************ Co-Author of Police Lugers - Co-Author of Simson Lugers Author of Veteran Bring Backs Vol I, Vol II, Vol III and Vol IV

11-28-2004, 08:19 PM	#26
maddog350gt User Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Washougal WA Posts: 170 Thanks: 0 Thanked 2 Times in 2 Posts	Don, as I don't see any response here on the forum about your two extra magazines I thought I would send this along. Your description of the mark on the magazines suggest that they were surplus US Army test eagle magazines. These were marked with a US flaming bomb proof or acceptance mark. I am not a magazine expert and I am sure that there are others here with more expertise, but if you are curious try to load a picture of the mark on the magazines for the group to comment on. Your 1900 AE is not a test eagle as it has the Germany stamp, but the magazines being sold as surplus would have been contemporary with the period when your luger was originally acquired. This Luger rig is an exceptional find and makes you the envy of many, including myself. Congratulations on an outstanding early Luger rig. Bob M.

11-30-2004, 10:32 AM	#27
John Sabato Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: The Capital of the Free World Posts: 10,155 Thanks: 3,003 Thanked 2,308 Times in 1,098 Posts	Wes, thanks for the additional photos of the Musgrave Luger... I will add them to the Member Gallery Album as soon as time permits... __________________ regards, -John S "...We hold these truths to be self-evident that ALL men are created EQUAL *and are endowed by their Creator* with certain UNALIENABLE* rights, and among these are life, LIBERTY, and the pursuit of happiness..."*