Luger Definitions~ - Page 2

Vlim · 08-16-2015, 09:42 AM

There are a few exceptions to the rule when it comes to 'rebuilt / refinished / refurbished' pistols.

For example:
Dutch lugers went through an overhaul program about every 7 years. Depending on the condition, things were fixed/replaced/reblued, etc... Doesn't detract from the value.

Swiss lugers again were maintained throughout their service life (and afterwards) and these actions are well documented. I remember an article on the personal 1906 Bern pistol of the former manager of the W+F Bern, it had the rear toggle and the barrel replaced which was backed by original factory documentation.

East-German ('VoPo') lugers were rebuilt/refurbished from existing P.08 pistols and newly manufactured parts. Well documented.

Finnish lugers got new Tikka barrels.

So, sometimes, refurbishing and rebuilding are part of the service history of pistols and in my opinion this does not hurt the value at all.

4 Scale · 08-25-2015, 08:58 PM

The "definitions" I'm laughing at these days:

"Exceptional"
"Rare"
"Desirable"
"Unique"
"Extraordinary"
"Historic"
"Iconic"
"Scarce"
"Documented"
"Outstanding"
"Excellent"

And on and on. Any of which can be prefaced by "very", "ultra", "extremely" and similar zippy qualifiers.

Recently I asked a seller about the bore as his ad was silent on the subject. He said it had "pronounced rifling"; just think about what horrors could lurk alongside said rifling.

Dealing with sellers and trying to sort through their descriptions has not increased my faith in the integrity of the average human. Sadly, I have concluded the average Luger Seller considers the average Luger Buyer an idiot (excepting of course those who offer pistols here...)

cirelaw · 08-25-2015, 09:49 PM

More descriptions, Have it!, had it!, want it!, held it! sold it! regret it! no longer mine! someday! maybe! never again or the best. Got it, had it, regret it because it was my first!! They say you never forget your first especially if its your last!! Eric

DonVoigt · 08-25-2015, 09:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by luger.parabellum

Some people believe that to clean dirty barrels is enough shooting few fmj balls and almost by magic all the lead comes out, infortunatly that's wrong, magic wands exist only in fairy tales and in Photoshop.
As far as "fire lapping rounds" are concerned some people use them on cheap factory barrels but I wouldn't use any lapping round in a custom barrel.

Sergio

Sergio,
factory barrels are not "cheap" anymore, at least to some.
And they do respond to fire lapping; of course like anything else- doing it wrong would detract from the results.

cirelaw · 09-14-2015, 03:43 PM

Are all barrels interchangeable!!!

08-16-2015, 09:42 AM	#21
Vlim Moderator Lifetime LugerForum Patron Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Europe Posts: 5,053 Thanks: 1,036 Thanked 3,990 Times in 1,205 Posts	There are a few exceptions to the rule when it comes to 'rebuilt / refinished / refurbished' pistols. For example: Dutch lugers went through an overhaul program about every 7 years. Depending on the condition, things were fixed/replaced/reblued, etc... Doesn't detract from the value. Swiss lugers again were maintained throughout their service life (and afterwards) and these actions are well documented. I remember an article on the personal 1906 Bern pistol of the former manager of the W+F Bern, it had the rear toggle and the barrel replaced which was backed by original factory documentation. East-German ('VoPo') lugers were rebuilt/refurbished from existing P.08 pistols and newly manufactured parts. Well documented. Finnish lugers got new Tikka barrels. So, sometimes, refurbishing and rebuilding are part of the service history of pistols and in my opinion this does not hurt the value at all.

08-25-2015, 08:58 PM	#22
4 Scale User Join Date: Nov 2014 Posts: 544 Thanks: 194 Thanked 490 Times in 251 Posts	The "definitions" I'm laughing at these days: "Exceptional" "Rare" "Desirable" "Unique" "Extraordinary" "Historic" "Iconic" "Scarce" "Documented" "Outstanding" "Excellent" And on and on. Any of which can be prefaced by "very", "ultra", "extremely" and similar zippy qualifiers. Recently I asked a seller about the bore as his ad was silent on the subject. He said it had "pronounced rifling"; just think about what horrors could lurk alongside said rifling. Dealing with sellers and trying to sort through their descriptions has not increased my faith in the integrity of the average human. Sadly, I have concluded the average Luger Seller considers the average Luger Buyer an idiot (excepting of course those who offer pistols here...)

08-25-2015, 09:49 PM	#23
cirelaw Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: PORT ST LUCIE, FLORIDA Posts: 12,216 Thanks: 6,209 Thanked 4,138 Times in 2,176 Posts	More descriptions, Have it!, had it!, want it!, held it! sold it! regret it! no longer mine! someday! maybe! never again or the best. Got it, had it, regret it because it was my first!! They say you never forget your first especially if its your last!! Eric

09-14-2015, 03:43 PM	#25
cirelaw Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: PORT ST LUCIE, FLORIDA Posts: 12,216 Thanks: 6,209 Thanked 4,138 Times in 2,176 Posts	Are all barrels interchangeable!!!