P 08 Magazine

8x57IS · 06-28-2015, 07:36 PM

Hello,

this is my first post in the forum and please excuse my bad English.

Next Wednesday I pick up my first Luger, a matching(just not the magazine) S/42 1936 and when I have it at home, then I will post some photos. Here are experts and I'm curious about your opinion.

Today I bought already online a spare magazine, a Haenel Schmeisser fxo with the SN 69 and WaA37 proof.
I just have this three photos, I hope it's an original and not a fake.

Best regards,
Stephan

LU1900 · 06-28-2015, 08:00 PM

Wellcome ,
The bottom aluminium is suspect for me

DonVoigt · 06-28-2015, 09:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 8x57IS

Hello,

this is my first post in the forum and please excuse my bad English.

Next Wednesday I pick up my first Luger, a matching(just not the magazine) S/42 1936 and when I have it at home, then I will post some photos. Here are experts and I'm curious about your opinion.

Today I bought already online a spare magazine, a Haenel Schmeisser fxo with the SN 69 and WaA37 proof.
I just have this three photos, I hope it's an original and not a fake.

Best regards,
Stephan

Can you post a picture of the bottom of the magazine with the markings?

DonVoigt · 06-28-2015, 09:40 PM

Can you post a picture of the bottom of the magazine with the markings?

8x57IS · 06-29-2015, 03:34 AM

Thank you very much for your replies.

In the next days I get the magazine and then I will post a picture of the bottom of the magazine.

Greetings,
Stephan

DavidJayUden · 06-29-2015, 08:25 AM

Remember that if one photo is good, 5 is probably better.
dju

Lugerdoc · 06-29-2015, 10:16 AM

Stephan, I agree with the above. With the convex pin being installed off center in your aluminum bottom, this is most likely a DDR rework of an original WW2 mag. Tom

G.T. · 06-29-2015, 01:42 PM

Hi Stephan, Your magazine is a perfect candidate for a replacement "fxo" black Bakelite bottom that both Lugerdoc and I sell.... They are an extremely accurate part, and although not original, they are the same material, and have the same appearance, and are, I would think, at least as desirable as an East German re-work... let one of us know if you'd like to pursue..... best to you, til...lat'r...GT......

ithacaartist · 06-29-2015, 06:27 PM

Hey, I posted about this and another mag with off-center pin, by the same auction seller. Nobody paid much attention.

My impression is that a factory original mag would not have such a condition, and was wondering who might have fiddled with these,and why. So, the East German rebuilds can sometimes be like this?

John Sabato · 06-30-2015, 08:17 AM

I am not convinced that an off center pin is evidence of only East German rebuilds, or other re-manufacture. Perhaps those members who have extensive collections of FXO type magazines could post photos of any known genuine original mags that have an offcenter pin? I am virtually sure I have seen and owned original FXO or 122 type mags with this condition in the past.

lugerholsterrepair · 06-30-2015, 11:33 AM

John is correct IMHO. I have observed this in original German mags. Shocking but true.

Lugerdoc · 07-01-2015, 02:33 PM

In addition to the off center pins, the DDR mags with usually have large die set digits (as used on Weimar Police replacement mags) with out any suffix or inspection markings. TH

8x57IS · 07-05-2015, 02:29 PM

At first, thank you very much for all your replies and the interesting discussion.

I took some photos and I'm sorry for the bad quality, the lighting wasn't good. In the photos you can see the fxo magazine and the 122 magazine which I got with my new P08 S/42 1936. The pistol is matching, just the magazine is not.

What do you think about the fxo magazine? I guess it's a fake.

Greetings,
Stephan

8x57IS · 07-05-2015, 02:31 PM

Some more photos.

In the next days I will take some detail photos of the P08, when the lighting is better.

G.T. · 07-05-2015, 02:37 PM

It's not a fake, just an East German rework of a wartime mag... put an original bottom back on and you're good to go!....GT......

Lugerdoc · 07-06-2015, 09:37 AM

GT would be the guy to install a new "perfect" repro FXO type black plastic bottom in your DDR reworked mag. TH

mrerick · 07-06-2015, 11:18 AM

The 9279e marked magazine is original and about as perfect as can be.

The other one is, as mentioned, the candidate for a bakelite / plastic base replacement. You could, of course, just leave it as is. They make excellent magazines for shooter Lugers.

Your Luger is in superb condition. Congratulations!

8x57IS · 07-08-2015, 07:53 PM

Thank you for your opinions and I think for now I will let the rework magazine how it is.

@ mrerick
I'm glad you like it, I'm happy with my new Luger. Maybe the lighting/flash make the condition look better in the last photos. I took some more photos and there you can see some little flaws, nevertheless I really like the look.

I will write a new post about my Luger in "All P-08 Military Lugers", I'm curious what you think about the condition and maybe you or another user has some informations for me.
Like I said, I'm a beginner with the P08 and I have to learn a lot.

Best regards,
Stephan

06-28-2015, 07:36 PM	#1
8x57IS User Join Date: Jun 2015 Posts: 11 Thanks: 10 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	P 08 Magazine Hello, this is my first post in the forum and please excuse my bad English. Next Wednesday I pick up my first Luger, a matching(just not the magazine) S/42 1936 and when I have it at home, then I will post some photos. Here are experts and I'm curious about your opinion. Today I bought already online a spare magazine, a Haenel Schmeisser fxo with the SN 69 and WaA37 proof. I just have this three photos, I hope it's an original and not a fake. Best regards, Stephan Attached Thumbnails

06-28-2015, 08:00 PM	#2
LU1900 User Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: FRANCE Posts: 908 Thanks: 42 Thanked 469 Times in 197 Posts	Wellcome , The bottom aluminium is suspect for me __________________ Best regards from France...Patrice https://www.fichier-pdf.fr/2016/03/1...nd-snail-drum/

06-29-2015, 10:16 AM	#7
Lugerdoc Patron LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: POB 398 St.Charles,MO. 63302 Posts: 5,089 Thanks: 6 Thanked 736 Times in 483 Posts	Stephan, I agree with the above. With the convex pin being installed off center in your aluminum bottom, this is most likely a DDR rework of an original WW2 mag. Tom __________________ Tom Heller POB 398 ST.Charles, MO. 63302 Tel 636-447-3006 lugerdoc@charter.net

06-29-2015, 01:42 PM	#8
G.T. Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Chandler Arizona Posts: 3,507 Thanks: 1,318 Thanked 3,653 Times in 1,004 Posts	fxo bottom Hi Stephan, Your magazine is a perfect candidate for a replacement "fxo" black Bakelite bottom that both Lugerdoc and I sell.... They are an extremely accurate part, and although not original, they are the same material, and have the same appearance, and are, I would think, at least as desirable as an East German re-work... let one of us know if you'd like to pursue..... best to you, til...lat'r...GT......

06-29-2015, 06:27 PM	#9
ithacaartist Twice a Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: Atop the highest hill in Schuyler County NY Posts: 3,346 Thanks: 7,277 Thanked 2,578 Times in 1,365 Posts	Hey, I posted about this and another mag with off-center pin, by the same auction seller. Nobody paid much attention. My impression is that a factory original mag would not have such a condition, and was wondering who might have fiddled with these,and why. So, the East German rebuilds can sometimes be like this? __________________ "... Liberty is the seed and soil, the air and light, the dew and rain of progress, love and joy."-- Robert Greene Ingersoll 1894

06-28-2015, 09:40 PM	#4
DonVoigt User Join Date: Apr 2015 Location: near Charlotte NC Posts: 4,681 Thanks: 1,441 Thanked 4,350 Times in 2,040 Posts	Can you post a picture of the bottom of the magazine with the markings?

06-29-2015, 03:34 AM	#5
8x57IS User Join Date: Jun 2015 Posts: 11 Thanks: 10 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Thank you very much for your replies. In the next days I get the magazine and then I will post a picture of the bottom of the magazine. Greetings, Stephan

06-29-2015, 08:25 AM	#6
DavidJayUden Patron LugerForum Patron Join Date: Nov 2008 Posts: 4,047 Thanks: 578 Thanked 1,414 Times in 887 Posts	Remember that if one photo is good, 5 is probably better. dju

06-30-2015, 08:17 AM	#10
John Sabato Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: The Capital of the Free World Posts: 10,154 Thanks: 3,003 Thanked 2,306 Times in 1,097 Posts	I am not convinced that an off center pin is evidence of only East German rebuilds, or other re-manufacture. Perhaps those members who have extensive collections of FXO type magazines could post photos of any known genuine original mags that have an offcenter pin? I am virtually sure I have seen and owned original FXO or 122 type mags with this condition in the past. __________________ regards, -John S "...We hold these truths to be self-evident that ALL men are created EQUAL *and are endowed by their Creator* with certain UNALIENABLE* rights, and among these are life, LIBERTY, and the pursuit of happiness..."*

06-30-2015, 11:33 AM	#11
lugerholsterrepair Moderator Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Arizona/Colorado Posts: 7,772 Thanks: 4,933 Thanked 3,124 Times in 1,434 Posts	John is correct IMHO. I have observed this in original German mags. Shocking but true. __________________ Jerry Burney 11491 S. Guadalupe Drive Yuma AZ 85367-6182 lugerholsterrepair@earthlink.net 928 342-7583 (CO & AZ) Year Round 719 207-3331 (cell) "For those who Fight For It, Life has a flavor the protected will never know."

07-01-2015, 02:33 PM	#12
Lugerdoc Patron LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: POB 398 St.Charles,MO. 63302 Posts: 5,089 Thanks: 6 Thanked 736 Times in 483 Posts	In addition to the off center pins, the DDR mags with usually have large die set digits (as used on Weimar Police replacement mags) with out any suffix or inspection markings. TH __________________ Tom Heller POB 398 ST.Charles, MO. 63302 Tel 636-447-3006 lugerdoc@charter.net

07-05-2015, 02:29 PM	#13
8x57IS User Join Date: Jun 2015 Posts: 11 Thanks: 10 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	At first, thank you very much for all your replies and the interesting discussion. I took some photos and I'm sorry for the bad quality, the lighting wasn't good. In the photos you can see the fxo magazine and the 122 magazine which I got with my new P08 S/42 1936. The pistol is matching, just the magazine is not. What do you think about the fxo magazine? I guess it's a fake. Greetings, Stephan Attached Thumbnails

07-05-2015, 02:31 PM	#14
8x57IS User Join Date: Jun 2015 Posts: 11 Thanks: 10 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Some more photos. In the next days I will take some detail photos of the P08, when the lighting is better. Attached Thumbnails

07-05-2015, 02:37 PM	#15
G.T. Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Chandler Arizona Posts: 3,507 Thanks: 1,318 Thanked 3,653 Times in 1,004 Posts	magazine fxo It's not a fake, just an East German rework of a wartime mag... put an original bottom back on and you're good to go!....GT......

07-06-2015, 09:37 AM	#16
Lugerdoc Patron LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: POB 398 St.Charles,MO. 63302 Posts: 5,089 Thanks: 6 Thanked 736 Times in 483 Posts	GT would be the guy to install a new "perfect" repro FXO type black plastic bottom in your DDR reworked mag. TH __________________ Tom Heller POB 398 ST.Charles, MO. 63302 Tel 636-447-3006 lugerdoc@charter.net

07-06-2015, 11:18 AM	#17
mrerick Super Moderator - Patron LugerForum Life Patron Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Eastern North Carolina, USA Posts: 3,909 Thanks: 1,374 Thanked 3,110 Times in 1,510 Posts	The 9279e marked magazine is original and about as perfect as can be. The other one is, as mentioned, the candidate for a bakelite / plastic base replacement. You could, of course, just leave it as is. They make excellent magazines for shooter Lugers. Your Luger is in superb condition. Congratulations! __________________ Igitur si vis pacem, para bellum - - Therefore if you want peace, prepare for war.

07-08-2015, 07:53 PM	#18
8x57IS User Join Date: Jun 2015 Posts: 11 Thanks: 10 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Thank you for your opinions and I think for now I will let the rework magazine how it is. @ mrerick I'm glad you like it, I'm happy with my new Luger. Maybe the lighting/flash make the condition look better in the last photos. I took some more photos and there you can see some little flaws, nevertheless I really like the look. I will write a new post about my Luger in "All P-08 Military Lugers", I'm curious what you think about the condition and maybe you or another user has some informations for me. Like I said, I'm a beginner with the P08 and I have to learn a lot. Best regards, Stephan