A Reworked Artillery Question~

cirelaw · 03-14-2015, 04:54 PM

I have and today posted in my interesting post section the luger above.. I have a 1914 DWM artillery that was reworked in 1920. It then sometime there after early became a nazi navy. My questions, what was actually performed? Every part is matching. Would they mearly inspect clean up and reissued. I can't fine this actual process. Thank you all?

George Anderson · 03-14-2015, 05:07 PM

Eric, it's an Erfurt 1914 dated LP08. Nothing was done to it but stamping the 1920 property mark and then the unit marking.

sheepherder · 03-14-2015, 05:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cirelaw

I have a 1914 DWM artillery that was reworked in 1920. It then sometime there after early became a nazi navy.

Eric, what markings define that this was re-issued as a 'Nazi Navy'???

cirelaw · 03-14-2015, 06:36 PM

This is the summary from George Anderson who I buy all my lugers

sheepherder · 03-14-2015, 07:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cirelaw

This is the summary from George Anderson who I buy all my lugers

So the M/anchor is the Kriegsmarine marking. That is good to know.

I had thought maybe it was marked with the E/xxx markings or something similar.

Very interesting piece!

lugerholsterrepair · 03-14-2015, 09:27 PM

NOOOO..not Kriegsmarine marking. Reichsmarine, Weimar Navy.

sheepherder · 03-14-2015, 09:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lugerholsterrepair

NOOOO..not Kriegsmarine marking. Reichsmarine, Weimar Navy.

Jerry, I was simply restating what the letter Eric posted says -

lugerholsterrepair · 03-14-2015, 10:12 PM

Kriegsmarine - Reichsmarine..two different era's and never the twain shall meet is my opinion but if George Anderson says there is an overlap..who am I to argue?

sheepherder · 03-14-2015, 10:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lugerholsterrepair

Kriegsmarine - Reichsmarine..two different era's and never the twain shall meet is my opinion but if George Anderson says there is an overlap..who am I to argue?

Maybe I should delete my posts so as to avoid any more confusion???

lugerholsterrepair · 03-14-2015, 10:50 PM

You delete a lot of posts..trying to break a record? What's confusing about a conversation? Deleted posts leave out parts people are interested in following and the gaps make it confusing. Less confusing if you can just read along, sort it out and make up your mind from the information available. Besides, I have to click on all your deleted posts to read them..quit that! Most deleted posts have valid offerings but people delete them anyway..who knows?

sheepherder · 03-14-2015, 11:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lugerholsterrepair

You delete a lot of posts...

Yes. When I do a Search, many of the hits are the same questions I am Searching for but there are no answers. So if I ask a question and get no response, I delete it. No sense leaving an unanswered question. Sometimes I'll post just to kickstart a thread, then delete my post because it adds nothing to the thread.

Some threads just keep lingering on, long after their usefulness, dying a slow death...It's better to just put them out of their misery.

In any event, Eric has an interesting "Nazi Navy" artillery Luger...Wherever the markings are from...

cirelaw · 03-14-2015, 11:41 PM

You both my dere friends, history doesn't change! It only how its presented. I have a BA in History and a Doctorate in Law! I've done research all my life no matter how presented under what ever the topic. Its like luger treasure hunting. One topic itself opens more doors. We are talking topic that have history back over going back over 100 years. My sole pupose to post what is out there and have to spend between 4 to 6 hours sorting out the stupid stuff. I love you both and Thank You for your opinions and long friendship~ Eric

lugerholsterrepair · 03-14-2015, 11:47 PM

Eric has an interesting "Nazi Navy" artillery Luger...Wherever the markings are from..No..Eric has an interesting Weimar marked Navy Artillery. The Nazi era used a swastica. THAT'S how you tell a Nazi Navy marking. It has Nazi stuff on it. Jeeze..how hard is this?

sheepherder · 03-15-2015, 12:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lugerholsterrepair

Eric has an interesting "Nazi Navy" artillery Luger...Wherever the markings are from..No..Eric has an interesting Weimar marked Navy Artillery. The Nazi era used a swastica. THAT'S how you tell a Nazi Navy marking. It has Nazi stuff on it. Jeeze..how hard is this?

It's whatever Eric believes it is. I have no argument with him.

lugerholsterrepair · 03-15-2015, 12:24 AM

Whatever. Sometimes it's just best to give up. Maybe deleting lot's of post's IS the best way to go!

cirelaw · 03-15-2015, 10:15 AM

The rest of the story!

Ben M. · 03-15-2015, 12:09 PM

do we see what is called haloes when 1920 is stamped?

cirelaw · 03-15-2015, 12:56 PM

None~

George Anderson · 03-15-2015, 05:14 PM

The Anchor/M marking is Reichsmarine. Th Nordsee property number is Reichsmarine in all likelihood but was carried over into the Third Reich period and used on all Wilhelmshaven marked Third Reich pistols that were Nordsee marked. Third Reich Ostsee marked pistols that I have observed were all marked on the front grip strap. I have never seen an Ostsee marked Reichsmarine pistol.

cirelaw · 03-15-2015, 09:29 PM

Hitler visiting Reichsmarine Wilhelmshaven~~https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pvTjPDdN2VA

03-14-2015, 09:27 PM	#6
lugerholsterrepair Moderator Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Arizona/Colorado Posts: 7,775 Thanks: 4,995 Thanked 3,134 Times in 1,439 Posts	NOOOO..not Kriegsmarine marking. Reichsmarine, Weimar Navy. __________________ Jerry Burney 11491 S. Guadalupe Drive Yuma AZ 85367-6182 lugerholsterrepair@earthlink.net 928 342-7583 (CO & AZ) Year Round 719 207-3331 (cell) "For those who Fight For It, Life has a flavor the protected will never know."

03-14-2015, 10:12 PM	#8
lugerholsterrepair Moderator Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Arizona/Colorado Posts: 7,775 Thanks: 4,995 Thanked 3,134 Times in 1,439 Posts	Kriegsmarine - Reichsmarine..two different era's and never the twain shall meet is my opinion but if George Anderson says there is an overlap..who am I to argue? __________________ Jerry Burney 11491 S. Guadalupe Drive Yuma AZ 85367-6182 lugerholsterrepair@earthlink.net 928 342-7583 (CO & AZ) Year Round 719 207-3331 (cell) "For those who Fight For It, Life has a flavor the protected will never know."

03-14-2015, 10:50 PM	#10
lugerholsterrepair Moderator Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Arizona/Colorado Posts: 7,775 Thanks: 4,995 Thanked 3,134 Times in 1,439 Posts	You delete a lot of posts..trying to break a record? What's confusing about a conversation? Deleted posts leave out parts people are interested in following and the gaps make it confusing. Less confusing if you can just read along, sort it out and make up your mind from the information available. Besides, I have to click on all your deleted posts to read them..quit that! Most deleted posts have valid offerings but people delete them anyway..who knows? __________________ Jerry Burney 11491 S. Guadalupe Drive Yuma AZ 85367-6182 lugerholsterrepair@earthlink.net 928 342-7583 (CO & AZ) Year Round 719 207-3331 (cell) "For those who Fight For It, Life has a flavor the protected will never know."

03-14-2015, 11:47 PM	#13
lugerholsterrepair Moderator Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Arizona/Colorado Posts: 7,775 Thanks: 4,995 Thanked 3,134 Times in 1,439 Posts	Eric has an interesting "Nazi Navy" artillery Luger...Wherever the markings are from..No..Eric has an interesting Weimar marked Navy Artillery. The Nazi era used a swastica. THAT'S how you tell a Nazi Navy marking. It has Nazi stuff on it. Jeeze..how hard is this? __________________ Jerry Burney 11491 S. Guadalupe Drive Yuma AZ 85367-6182 lugerholsterrepair@earthlink.net 928 342-7583 (CO & AZ) Year Round 719 207-3331 (cell) "For those who Fight For It, Life has a flavor the protected will never know."

03-15-2015, 12:24 AM	#15
lugerholsterrepair Moderator Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Arizona/Colorado Posts: 7,775 Thanks: 4,995 Thanked 3,134 Times in 1,439 Posts	Whatever. Sometimes it's just best to give up. Maybe deleting lot's of post's IS the best way to go! __________________ Jerry Burney 11491 S. Guadalupe Drive Yuma AZ 85367-6182 lugerholsterrepair@earthlink.net 928 342-7583 (CO & AZ) Year Round 719 207-3331 (cell) "For those who Fight For It, Life has a flavor the protected will never know."

03-14-2015, 05:07 PM	#2
George Anderson Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: VA Posts: 3,592 Thanks: 1,773 Thanked 2,531 Times in 788 Posts	Eric, it's an Erfurt 1914 dated LP08. Nothing was done to it but stamping the 1920 property mark and then the unit marking.

03-14-2015, 11:41 PM	#12
cirelaw Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: PORT ST LUCIE, FLORIDA Posts: 12,216 Thanks: 6,209 Thanked 4,138 Times in 2,176 Posts	You both my dere friends, history doesn't change! It only how its presented. I have a BA in History and a Doctorate in Law! I've done research all my life no matter how presented under what ever the topic. Its like luger treasure hunting. One topic itself opens more doors. We are talking topic that have history back over going back over 100 years. My sole pupose to post what is out there and have to spend between 4 to 6 hours sorting out the stupid stuff. I love you both and Thank You for your opinions and long friendship~ Eric

03-15-2015, 12:09 PM	#17
Ben M. User Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Retired to Naples, FL. Posts: 498 Thanks: 112 Thanked 156 Times in 98 Posts	do we see what is called haloes when 1920 is stamped?

03-15-2015, 05:14 PM	#19
George Anderson Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: VA Posts: 3,592 Thanks: 1,773 Thanked 2,531 Times in 788 Posts	The Anchor/M marking is Reichsmarine. Th Nordsee property number is Reichsmarine in all likelihood but was carried over into the Third Reich period and used on all Wilhelmshaven marked Third Reich pistols that were Nordsee marked. Third Reich Ostsee marked pistols that I have observed were all marked on the front grip strap. I have never seen an Ostsee marked Reichsmarine pistol.