Rare Mauser 714 - Page 2

sheepherder · 02-02-2015, 10:13 AM

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Originally Posted by alvin

This should be the one. It's sold to me in store. I don't understand why seller still leaves the ad there. If someone win it, how could it be delivered... unless he has another one for sale. Highly unlikely though. But who knows,,,

Anyway,,, if this is another one, I will give it a try again to get a pair. If it's the same one, no problem for me either.

Was it a second broomhandle??? Sold for $5,025...

Did you get it???

"No magazine"...

If yours came with magazine, then this must be second broomhandle '714'...

alvin · 02-02-2015, 10:28 AM

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Originally Posted by sheepherder

Was it a second broomhandle??? Sold for $5,025...

Did you get it???

"No magazine"...

I am the winner. But I doubt that he has another one... I have not contact him yet, he's in Texas, store not open until 10am central. If he indeed has another one, $5025 is a steal, I will very happy to pay for it to make a pair.

Numerous C96 collections went through auction sales in the past 10 years. I have seen only one of this in RIAC 2011 session (it's the same 84658 in gunboards.com). In the same time frame, I have met a dozen or so 20-shots (if I remembered right, Mauser only sold 177 20-shots). Even if Erickson's estimation of "10" were too low, I guess there are fewer of these than famous CC Luger (50?)

Magazine is nothing. $200-$300 item, depends on condition. Not numbered. And there are plentiful of them. But I changed my mind, I will leave it as is without magazine, it came to me without magazine, then, no magazine.

Sergio Natali · 02-02-2015, 11:06 AM

Alvin

Congratulations on your new broomhamdle then!

Sergio

alvin · 02-02-2015, 11:19 AM

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Originally Posted by luger.parabellum

Alvin

Congratulations on your new broomhamdle then!

Sergio

Thanks.

At peak time, I had more than 50 broomhandles in safe. Too crowd

So selling a few from time to time. Have not used any auction services nor dealer consignment services so far. But for this gun, probably have to send it to an auction service in future. Usually, people dare not buy very high value gun from private sale.

Sergio Natali · 02-02-2015, 12:28 PM

Yes no doubt many people are a bit wary in these cases, a part from the fact that probably buying from a gunshop or from an auction is not always a guarantee for the genuinity of the item either.
Here for instance there is very little knowledge about Lugers and C96.
Even people that have been collecting/dealing with these two sort of guns for yonks still make terrific mistakes.

Sergio

P.S.

Anyway chapeau! to you.

alvin · 02-02-2015, 02:24 PM

That's right. My two "tuition" guns all came from auctioneers. To return something back to auctioneers was as hard as going to the moon. All sales are final, that's the biggest risk.

But I still monitor auctions. And, I gradually start understanding why many collectors, including many well known collections were sent to auction houses. Not because they are selling fakes (although they could misrepresent certain items occasionally). Auction houses marketing is strong, and they do carry many good items.

One evidence -- RIAC could sell mint M1930 without stock to $6000-$7000. There definitely is a trust factor inside. Not all bidders could spend tons of time on studying guns, but they have money. Which individual collector seller could push it to that level. Probably none.

And, gun like standard C96, although being common, while in high condition, it could go crazy too. People bid one mint example from Sturgess collection to $9k-$10k range last year (with Simpson's stamp on its butt!!).. If it were not sold via Julia, I seriously doubt it could go 50% of that.

alvin · 02-06-2015, 06:28 AM

Final report on this to close this story: there is no 2nd one.

02-02-2015, 11:06 AM	#23
Sergio Natali User Join Date: Feb 2013 Location: Somewhere in Northern Italy Posts: 2,646 Thanks: 1,082 Thanked 1,783 Times in 1,007 Posts	Alvin Congratulations on your new broomhamdle then! Sergio __________________ "Originality can't be restored and should be at the top of any collector's priority list.

02-02-2015, 12:28 PM	#25
Sergio Natali User Join Date: Feb 2013 Location: Somewhere in Northern Italy Posts: 2,646 Thanks: 1,082 Thanked 1,783 Times in 1,007 Posts	Yes no doubt many people are a bit wary in these cases, a part from the fact that probably buying from a gunshop or from an auction is not always a guarantee for the genuinity of the item either. Here for instance there is very little knowledge about Lugers and C96. Even people that have been collecting/dealing with these two sort of guns for yonks still make terrific mistakes. Sergio P.S. Anyway chapeau! to you. __________________ "Originality can't be restored and should be at the top of any collector's priority list.

02-02-2015, 02:24 PM	#26
alvin User Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: US Posts: 3,843 Thanks: 132 Thanked 729 Times in 438 Posts	That's right. My two "tuition" guns all came from auctioneers. To return something back to auctioneers was as hard as going to the moon. All sales are final, that's the biggest risk. But I still monitor auctions. And, I gradually start understanding why many collectors, including many well known collections were sent to auction houses. Not because they are selling fakes (although they could misrepresent certain items occasionally). Auction houses marketing is strong, and they do carry many good items. One evidence -- RIAC could sell mint M1930 without stock to $6000-$7000. There definitely is a trust factor inside. Not all bidders could spend tons of time on studying guns, but they have money. Which individual collector seller could push it to that level. Probably none. And, gun like standard C96, although being common, while in high condition, it could go crazy too. People bid one mint example from Sturgess collection to $9k-$10k range last year (with Simpson's stamp on its butt!!).. If it were not sold via Julia, I seriously doubt it could go 50% of that. Last edited by alvin; 02-02-2015 at 04:20 PM.

02-06-2015, 06:28 AM	#27
alvin User Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: US Posts: 3,843 Thanks: 132 Thanked 729 Times in 438 Posts	Final report on this to close this story: there is no 2nd one.