Borchardt-Luger Controversy

Heinz · 07-31-2002, 11:42 PM

Kyrie, First I apologize if you thought my reference to imaginative reports applied to you. I believe you were accurately reporting what you read. However it has been my experience in historical research that many secondary reference materials that have been published can be widely imaginative. If there is an actual interview with Mr Luger and he stated he was having these problems, and it was reported reasonably currently with when it happened, then it is a very nice reference. [But then look at all the recent interviews with Osama Bin Ladin ;-)]

I was incorrect when I referred to the rear of the reciever as the breech. I understand how that would be confusing. The Toggle Knob cams on the leading rear edge of the reciever.

As to the spring holding the toggle and breech closed. Try and experiment. Decock the firing pin spring and remove the cannon from the frame. Turn the canon upside down and observe the slight fall in the toggle. Decock the firing in the assembled pistol and turn it upside down. My 1915 does not have the slight drop in the toggle under this condition, indicating to me the recoil spring continues to exert a slight force on the toggle train.

Again, please to do not take any of my comments as personally maligning you. I have faith that you are an accurate reporter of what you have read and experienced.

kind regards, Heinz

07-31-2002, 11:42 PM	#11
Heinz User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Greenville SC Posts: 1,004 Thanks: 377 Thanked 411 Times in 180 Posts	Kyrie, First I apologize if you thought my reference to imaginative reports applied to you. I believe you were accurately reporting what you read. However it has been my experience in historical research that many secondary reference materials that have been published can be widely imaginative. If there is an actual interview with Mr Luger and he stated he was having these problems, and it was reported reasonably currently with when it happened, then it is a very nice reference. [But then look at all the recent interviews with Osama Bin Ladin ;-)] I was incorrect when I referred to the rear of the reciever as the breech. I understand how that would be confusing. The Toggle Knob cams on the leading rear edge of the reciever. As to the spring holding the toggle and breech closed. Try and experiment. Decock the firing pin spring and remove the cannon from the frame. Turn the canon upside down and observe the slight fall in the toggle. Decock the firing in the assembled pistol and turn it upside down. My 1915 does not have the slight drop in the toggle under this condition, indicating to me the recoil spring continues to exert a slight force on the toggle train. Again, please to do not take any of my comments as personally maligning you. I have faith that you are an accurate reporter of what you have read and experienced. kind regards, Heinz