sear safety rivet...

G.T. · 09-19-2014, 09:52 PM

Hi to all, does anyone have a used sear safety retaining rivet? All I need is dimensions?? Height in thousands, and diameter in thousands... please measure what you have and share! Thanks and best to all, til...lat'r...GT....

G.T. · 10-02-2014, 09:38 PM

can anyone take some nice, decent, close up pictures of the sear safe attaching rivet head, on a Luger they have with the sear safe??...

... The rest is pretty much self explanatory ... but there are countless rivet head shapes... If you can help out, I'd sure appreciate it... best to all, til...lat'r....GT

Lugerdoc · 10-03-2014, 10:26 PM

GT. The originals had more of dome shape than the ones that I sent. Unfortunately, the only ones that I can find like that are brass (or plated). I'll send you a couple for inspection. Thanks for your trade, received today. Tom

Edward Tinker · 10-03-2014, 10:43 PM

GT, i might have one attached to a sear that I have laying around...

sorry I missed this earlier. I can check the one I have and also on a police luger.

REMIND me via email if I forget

Ed

G.T. · 10-04-2014, 12:43 PM

Thanks Tom & Ed, for your help and assistance... hopefully, If I get good examples, I'll be able to make them same as original!.... Best to all, til....lat'r.....GT

tharpo · 10-04-2014, 03:23 PM

Hi G.T.
Here are a couple of rivet head photos. First is from my father's 1939 bringback Banner so I know it is correct. The second is from a 1941 Banner with a different shape.

Tom

G.T. · 10-04-2014, 11:12 PM

Hi Tom, the first one shown is referred to as a "truss" style, and the second as "universal" I've seen both, and neither is readily available, to me anyway?...

.. but think the truss is certainly period correct as you have stated.... Thanks a bunch, it all helps me a'lot! ....

...til...lat'r....GT

G.T. · 10-10-2014, 12:22 AM

OK, hi to all! Here's what I've discovered so far..... As you might suspect, the rivets are the easy part!!!!

... I have discovered that all were done with a large variance in position and tolerance... There is a variance in the distance from the edge of the receiver, and also a variance in distance between the holes on a linear measure?? So, what does this mean?? Well, if you are re-riveting an original sear safety back on it's original receiver, or re-riveting it to tighten it up on it's original receiver.. then all that is needed is a new rivet, as of now, nooooo problem!! ...

... BUT, if you want to reinstall a sear safety device from one receiver, onto a totally new application on another receiver.. you might encounter some issues... I'm thinking it's a crap shoot! maybe 50% interchangeability??... So, That's it... so far... more to come..BTW, the rivets turned out perfect... best to all, til...lat'r....GT

09-19-2014, 09:52 PM	#1
G.T. Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Chandler Arizona Posts: 3,486 Thanks: 1,284 Thanked 3,583 Times in 989 Posts	sear safety rivet... Hi to all, does anyone have a used sear safety retaining rivet? All I need is dimensions?? Height in thousands, and diameter in thousands... please measure what you have and share! Thanks and best to all, til...lat'r...GT....

10-02-2014, 09:38 PM	#2
G.T. Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Chandler Arizona Posts: 3,486 Thanks: 1,284 Thanked 3,583 Times in 989 Posts	Nobody! OK, how'a bout this! can anyone take some nice, decent, close up pictures of the sear safe attaching rivet head, on a Luger they have with the sear safe??... ... The rest is pretty much self explanatory ... but there are countless rivet head shapes... If you can help out, I'd sure appreciate it... best to all, til...lat'r....GT

10-03-2014, 10:26 PM	#3
Lugerdoc Patron LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: POB 398 St.Charles,MO. 63302 Posts: 5,089 Thanks: 6 Thanked 736 Times in 483 Posts	GT. The originals had more of dome shape than the ones that I sent. Unfortunately, the only ones that I can find like that are brass (or plated). I'll send you a couple for inspection. Thanks for your trade, received today. Tom __________________ Tom Heller POB 398 ST.Charles, MO. 63302 Tel 636-447-3006 lugerdoc@charter.net

10-04-2014, 12:43 PM	#5
G.T. Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Chandler Arizona Posts: 3,486 Thanks: 1,284 Thanked 3,583 Times in 989 Posts	rivets Thanks Tom & Ed, for your help and assistance... hopefully, If I get good examples, I'll be able to make them same as original!.... Best to all, til....lat'r.....GT

10-04-2014, 03:23 PM	#6
tharpo Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: West Coast, USA Posts: 537 Thanks: 116 Thanked 376 Times in 154 Posts	Hi G.T. Here are a couple of rivet head photos. First is from my father's 1939 bringback Banner so I know it is correct. The second is from a 1941 Banner with a different shape. Tom Attached Thumbnails

10-03-2014, 10:43 PM	#4
Edward Tinker Super Moderator Eternal Lifer LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: North of Spokane, WA Posts: 15,916 Thanks: 1,992 Thanked 4,507 Times in 2,081 Posts	GT, i might have one attached to a sear that I have laying around... sorry I missed this earlier. I can check the one I have and also on a police luger. REMIND me via email if I forget Ed

10-04-2014, 11:12 PM	#7
G.T. Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Chandler Arizona Posts: 3,486 Thanks: 1,284 Thanked 3,583 Times in 989 Posts	rivet shape. Hi Tom, the first one shown is referred to as a "truss" style, and the second as "universal" I've seen both, and neither is readily available, to me anyway?... .. but think the truss is certainly period correct as you have stated.... Thanks a bunch, it all helps me a'lot! .......til...lat'r....GT

10-10-2014, 12:22 AM	#8
G.T. Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Chandler Arizona Posts: 3,486 Thanks: 1,284 Thanked 3,583 Times in 989 Posts	sear safety rivets??? OK, hi to all! Here's what I've discovered so far..... As you might suspect, the rivets are the easy part!!!! ... I have discovered that all were done with a large variance in position and tolerance... There is a variance in the distance from the edge of the receiver, and also a variance in distance between the holes on a linear measure?? So, what does this mean?? Well, if you are re-riveting an original sear safety back on it's original receiver, or re-riveting it to tighten it up on it's original receiver.. then all that is needed is a new rivet, as of now, nooooo problem!! ...... BUT, if you want to reinstall a sear safety device from one receiver, onto a totally new application on another receiver.. you might encounter some issues... I'm thinking it's a crap shoot! maybe 50% interchangeability??... So, That's it... so far... more to come..BTW, the rivets turned out perfect... best to all, til...lat'r....GT