Tool and Holster verification

bdmatson · 08-20-2014, 03:25 PM

Hey all,

I am looking at the below holster and tool for purchase. Are these original and authentic? What timeframe would the tool be with the stamp it has on it (if it is original)?

Thanks,
Brian

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lugerholsterrepair · 08-20-2014, 05:12 PM

Weird..The shape of the tool is more Mauser than DWM . Maybe one of the tool experts will chime in.
The holster is marked 13 for 1913 yet marked inside with 1914. Both marks look legitimate..Someone who knows more about this stuff will have to comment. Either way the holster looks alright..Original.

John Sabato · 08-20-2014, 05:42 PM

Maybe manufactured in 1913 and issued in 1914? Just my guess.

lugerholsterrepair · 08-20-2014, 06:38 PM

John, Looks like it's unit marked above the 1914? That may have been done at the same time?

Ron Wood · 08-20-2014, 06:44 PM

Jerry,
I think you are correct...I suspect the 1914 marking is a property mark. It looks like "15IR" which is a bit unusual, but it might be for Infantry Regiment 15

lugerholsterrepair · 08-20-2014, 08:15 PM

Ron, I know 1920 is a Weimar property mark..but 1914? Can you finish that thought for me? It would be a new one on me and I am always happy to learn something cause I forget something every day!

Fat finger typo! I suspect the 1914 marking is a property mark.

lugerholsterrepair · 08-20-2014, 10:01 PM

I suspect the 1914 marking is a property mark is what I wanted clarity on?

Ron Wood · 08-20-2014, 10:09 PM

Ah ha! I WAGed that the 1914 in conjunction with the IR15 was a property mark...i.e. the date was applied when the holster entered into the Infantry Regiment 15 property books.

klaus 3338 · 08-21-2014, 02:45 AM

The unit mark is of the Bavarian 15 Infantry Regiment and the tool is the most often seen Imperal tool and correct.

08-20-2014, 03:25 PM	#1
bdmatson User Join Date: Jul 2014 Posts: 9 Thanks: 0 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post	Tool and Holster verification Hey all, I am looking at the below holster and tool for purchase. Are these original and authentic? What timeframe would the tool be with the stamp it has on it (if it is original)? Thanks, Brian

08-20-2014, 05:12 PM	#2
lugerholsterrepair Moderator Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Arizona/Colorado Posts: 7,771 Thanks: 4,928 Thanked 3,124 Times in 1,434 Posts	Weird..The shape of the tool is more Mauser than DWM . Maybe one of the tool experts will chime in. The holster is marked 13 for 1913 yet marked inside with 1914. Both marks look legitimate..Someone who knows more about this stuff will have to comment. Either way the holster looks alright..Original. __________________ Jerry Burney 11491 S. Guadalupe Drive Yuma AZ 85367-6182 lugerholsterrepair@earthlink.net 928 342-7583 (CO & AZ) Year Round 719 207-3331 (cell) "For those who Fight For It, Life has a flavor the protected will never know."

08-20-2014, 05:42 PM	#3
John Sabato Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: The Capital of the Free World Posts: 10,154 Thanks: 3,003 Thanked 2,306 Times in 1,097 Posts	Maybe manufactured in 1913 and issued in 1914? Just my guess. __________________ regards, -John S "...We hold these truths to be self-evident that ALL men are created EQUAL *and are endowed by their Creator* with certain UNALIENABLE* rights, and among these are life, LIBERTY, and the pursuit of happiness..."*

08-20-2014, 06:38 PM	#4
lugerholsterrepair Moderator Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Arizona/Colorado Posts: 7,771 Thanks: 4,928 Thanked 3,124 Times in 1,434 Posts	John, Looks like it's unit marked above the 1914? That may have been done at the same time? __________________ Jerry Burney 11491 S. Guadalupe Drive Yuma AZ 85367-6182 lugerholsterrepair@earthlink.net 928 342-7583 (CO & AZ) Year Round 719 207-3331 (cell) "For those who Fight For It, Life has a flavor the protected will never know."

08-20-2014, 06:44 PM	#5
Ron Wood Moderator 2010 LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Santa Teresa New Mexico just outside of the West Texas town of El Paso Posts: 7,020 Thanks: 1,090 Thanked 5,174 Times in 1,701 Posts	Jerry, I think you are correct...I suspect the 1914 marking is a property mark. It looks like "15IR" which is a bit unusual, but it might be for Infantry Regiment 15 __________________ If it's made after 1918...it's a reproduction

08-20-2014, 08:15 PM	#6
lugerholsterrepair Moderator Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Arizona/Colorado Posts: 7,771 Thanks: 4,928 Thanked 3,124 Times in 1,434 Posts	Ron, I know 1920 is a Weimar property mark..but 1914? Can you finish that thought for me? It would be a new one on me and I am always happy to learn something cause I forget something every day! Fat finger typo! I suspect the 1914 marking is a property mark. __________________ Jerry Burney 11491 S. Guadalupe Drive Yuma AZ 85367-6182 lugerholsterrepair@earthlink.net 928 342-7583 (CO & AZ) Year Round 719 207-3331 (cell) "For those who Fight For It, Life has a flavor the protected will never know." Last edited by lugerholsterrepair; 08-20-2014 at 10:00 PM.

08-20-2014, 10:01 PM	#7
lugerholsterrepair Moderator Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Arizona/Colorado Posts: 7,771 Thanks: 4,928 Thanked 3,124 Times in 1,434 Posts	I suspect the 1914 marking is a property mark is what I wanted clarity on? __________________ Jerry Burney 11491 S. Guadalupe Drive Yuma AZ 85367-6182 lugerholsterrepair@earthlink.net 928 342-7583 (CO & AZ) Year Round 719 207-3331 (cell) "For those who Fight For It, Life has a flavor the protected will never know."

08-20-2014, 10:09 PM	#8
Ron Wood Moderator 2010 LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Santa Teresa New Mexico just outside of the West Texas town of El Paso Posts: 7,020 Thanks: 1,090 Thanked 5,174 Times in 1,701 Posts	Ah ha! I WAGed that the 1914 in conjunction with the IR15 was a property mark...i.e. the date was applied when the holster entered into the Infantry Regiment 15 property books. Attached Images __________________ If it's made after 1918...it's a reproduction Last edited by Ron Wood; 08-20-2014 at 11:27 PM.

08-21-2014, 02:45 AM	#9
klaus 3338 User Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Germany Posts: 517 Thanks: 0 Thanked 411 Times in 160 Posts	The unit mark is of the Bavarian 15 Infantry Regiment and the tool is the most often seen Imperal tool and correct.