Cabelas

SteveM · 04-13-2014, 01:31 PM

Went to my local Cabelas last Friday and looked at what was described as Commercial 9mm. I don't pass up looking at Lugers and I had to see this one up close. It had been redone, not as bad as some but still redone. Asking price was around 16-17 hundred bucks. As I handed it back I told the Gun library guy that he might want to check the caliber, if someone bought it and a box of ammo they might be pleasantly surprised and he would have a mad customer. He said why, I said it's a 30 cal. He says no, it is a 9mm. I suggested he compare the muzzle of the luger with the P38 it was sitting next to. He says oh, it IS a 30 cal. These guys don't pay a whole lot of attention to anything.

Here is another one:

http://www.cabelas.com/product/DWM-M...rary&Ntt=luger

I saw this about 10 days ago and thought about buying it but decided I should probably pay my taxes instead. Not a bad 1908. Moral of the story, if it doesn't have a chamber date it has to be a commercial.

Ron Wood · 04-13-2014, 02:32 PM

Sorry Steve, that isn't the moral of the story, and the gun they are advertising as a 1920 Commercial is waaay off base. It is a rather scarce 1908 Military First Issue, probably made in early 1909. and it is Imperial era unit marked to boot! They didn't start dating military Lugers until 1910. Whoever is evaluating Lugers for Cabelas needs to find a new line of work. They indicate that the sale of this gun is now pending so a price isn't shown...what were they asking for it?

SteveM · 04-13-2014, 02:40 PM

Yeah Ron, it is a really early 1908 !st issue. With unit marks. I was just trying to show what a bunch of idiots they have at Cabelas. Was trying to point out that to them if it doesn't have a chamber date it must be a 1920 commercial. This is about the 3rd 1908 that I have seen at Cabelas that was misidentified. I should have made myself more clear.

cirelaw · 04-13-2014, 02:54 PM

They are probobly more focased on the Duck Dynasty bird calls, callenders and hundred of other products with their logo~~~ Eric

George Anderson · 04-13-2014, 05:09 PM

Remember gentlemen, Ignorance can be your Friend. I bought the 1908 thanks to a "heads-up" from a friend. I have its sister, only three numbers off on the unit mark.

SteveM · 04-13-2014, 05:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by George Anderson

Remember gentlemen, Ignorance can be your Friend. I bought the 1908 thanks to a "heads-up" from a friend. I have its sister, only three numbers off on the unit mark.

Correct on that, I have taken advantage of them more than once.

Ron Wood · 04-13-2014, 08:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SteveM

Yeah Ron, it is a really early 1908 !st issue. With unit marks. I was just trying to show what a bunch of idiots they have at Cabelas. Was trying to point out that to them if it doesn't have a chamber date it must be a 1920 commercial. This is about the 3rd 1908 that I have seen at Cabelas that was misidentified. I should have made myself more clear.

I should have known. I don't always recognize tongue-in-cheek comments.

Patronen · 04-13-2014, 09:00 PM

I worked with a guy that ended up quitting and going to work for one of Cabelas competitors. Nice guy but he was the hunter type not the collector. His opinion was it wasn't for hunting it was junk to him. His scope of handgun knowledge was Browning Buckmarks and Ruger Redhawks. Despite Our opinions and taste in firearms were polar opposites we got along good and we kept in touch for a short while when he went to work for the Big sporting chain. He was the guy in charge of firearms at that store he went to work for and one day I went to that store to see him and to shop and he had a discount table with all sorts of used things like holsters and pistol magazines etc. that probably came in when they took trades and he had prices on stuff that, well were worth a lot more than either he realized or could care about.

318is_Parabellum · 04-13-2014, 09:02 PM

I've noticed a couple of these mis-identified first issue P. 08's on Cabelas websites in the past 6 months. If I'd not already traded my 'expendables' for my third variation G-date, I'd still be on the hunt for one of these. As it was, I missed out on one by a couple of days...but then my G-date surfaced, and I had to have it!

I've made a some nice 'scores' from Cabelas over the past couple of years, due to the fact that they have no clue about many of their lugers. Unfortunately, they also have some near-junk for sale at ridiculous prices as well. Caveat Emptor, indeed.

Soldat222 · 04-14-2014, 01:35 AM

They were asking $1,499.99 is seems.

JTD · 04-14-2014, 07:39 AM

Sometimes things are better off left un-said................

m1903a3 · 04-14-2014, 11:41 AM

Norm, the keeper of the Navy list, stole a nice and extrememly rare (1 of 150) Navy contract P.08 from them last year because it was mis-identified.

They aren't the only ones. I got one of the same Navy contract P.08s from Rock Island auctions that was mis-identified as a Weimar era reworked Navy. All matching and all original. Sadly, I wasn't the only Navy collector who realized their error, so I had to pay a reasonably fair price for it. Still, if it had been correctly identified it might have gone for more.

George Anderson · 04-19-2014, 01:50 PM

Well, the 1908 from Cabelas arrived this week and I'm quite pleased with it. It has joined with its long lost sister:

1908 sn 1213, 123.R.M.G.51.
1908 sn 1288, 123.R.M.G.54.

The latter has two matching mags and matching holster and a friend on the left coast is sending me the matching mag for the former, 1213.

cirelaw · 04-19-2014, 01:56 PM

The Mel Fisher of Lugers!! Congrads!

drbuster · 04-19-2014, 02:43 PM

Eric, do you mean the Mel TORME of lugers?

cirelaw · 04-19-2014, 03:33 PM

I chose Mel Fisher who located the Spanish wreck the Atocha down the Florida keys. Treasure over 100 million. I can no longer dive so like George I must confine my treasure hunting to way cool LUGERS! ~~Eric

04-13-2014, 01:31 PM	#1
SteveM User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Texas Posts: 1,016 Thanks: 94 Thanked 275 Times in 137 Posts	Cabelas Went to my local Cabelas last Friday and looked at what was described as Commercial 9mm. I don't pass up looking at Lugers and I had to see this one up close. It had been redone, not as bad as some but still redone. Asking price was around 16-17 hundred bucks. As I handed it back I told the Gun library guy that he might want to check the caliber, if someone bought it and a box of ammo they might be pleasantly surprised and he would have a mad customer. He said why, I said it's a 30 cal. He says no, it is a 9mm. I suggested he compare the muzzle of the luger with the P38 it was sitting next to. He says oh, it IS a 30 cal. These guys don't pay a whole lot of attention to anything. Here is another one: http://www.cabelas.com/product/DWM-M...rary&Ntt=luger I saw this about 10 days ago and thought about buying it but decided I should probably pay my taxes instead. Not a bad 1908. Moral of the story, if it doesn't have a chamber date it has to be a commercial.

04-13-2014, 02:32 PM	#2
Ron Wood Moderator 2010 LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Santa Teresa New Mexico just outside of the West Texas town of El Paso Posts: 7,037 Thanks: 1,106 Thanked 5,249 Times in 1,721 Posts	Sorry Steve, that isn't the moral of the story, and the gun they are advertising as a 1920 Commercial is waaay off base. It is a rather scarce 1908 Military First Issue, probably made in early 1909. and it is Imperial era unit marked to boot! They didn't start dating military Lugers until 1910. Whoever is evaluating Lugers for Cabelas needs to find a new line of work. They indicate that the sale of this gun is now pending so a price isn't shown...what were they asking for it? __________________ If it's made after 1918...it's a reproduction

04-13-2014, 09:00 PM	#8
Patronen User Join Date: Jun 2010 Posts: 312 Thanks: 335 Thanked 93 Times in 70 Posts	I worked with a guy that ended up quitting and going to work for one of Cabelas competitors. Nice guy but he was the hunter type not the collector. His opinion was it wasn't for hunting it was junk to him. His scope of handgun knowledge was Browning Buckmarks and Ruger Redhawks. Despite Our opinions and taste in firearms were polar opposites we got along good and we kept in touch for a short while when he went to work for the Big sporting chain. He was the guy in charge of firearms at that store he went to work for and one day I went to that store to see him and to shop and he had a discount table with all sorts of used things like holsters and pistol magazines etc. that probably came in when they took trades and he had prices on stuff that, well were worth a lot more than either he realized or could care about. __________________ Dave

04-14-2014, 11:41 AM	#12
m1903a3 User Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Virginia Posts: 199 Thanks: 26 Thanked 319 Times in 113 Posts	Norm, the keeper of the Navy list, stole a nice and extrememly rare (1 of 150) Navy contract P.08 from them last year because it was mis-identified. They aren't the only ones. I got one of the same Navy contract P.08s from Rock Island auctions that was mis-identified as a Weimar era reworked Navy. All matching and all original. Sadly, I wasn't the only Navy collector who realized their error, so I had to pay a reasonably fair price for it. Still, if it had been correctly identified it might have gone for more. __________________ - Mike Life member: NRA, OVMS, VGCA Member: NAPCA, N-SSA(Veteran) Si vis pacem, para bellum

04-13-2014, 02:40 PM	#3
SteveM User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Texas Posts: 1,016 Thanks: 94 Thanked 275 Times in 137 Posts	Yeah Ron, it is a really early 1908 !st issue. With unit marks. I was just trying to show what a bunch of idiots they have at Cabelas. Was trying to point out that to them if it doesn't have a chamber date it must be a 1920 commercial. This is about the 3rd 1908 that I have seen at Cabelas that was misidentified. I should have made myself more clear.

04-13-2014, 02:54 PM	#4
cirelaw Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: PORT ST LUCIE, FLORIDA Posts: 12,216 Thanks: 6,209 Thanked 4,138 Times in 2,176 Posts	They are probobly more focased on the Duck Dynasty bird calls, callenders and hundred of other products with their logo~~~ Eric

04-13-2014, 05:09 PM	#5
George Anderson Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: VA Posts: 3,592 Thanks: 1,773 Thanked 2,531 Times in 788 Posts	Remember gentlemen, Ignorance can be your Friend. I bought the 1908 thanks to a "heads-up" from a friend. I have its sister, only three numbers off on the unit mark.

04-13-2014, 09:02 PM	#9
318is_Parabellum User Join Date: Aug 2013 Location: West Virginia Posts: 130 Thanks: 80 Thanked 75 Times in 31 Posts	I've noticed a couple of these mis-identified first issue P. 08's on Cabelas websites in the past 6 months. If I'd not already traded my 'expendables' for my third variation G-date, I'd still be on the hunt for one of these. As it was, I missed out on one by a couple of days...but then my G-date surfaced, and I had to have it! I've made a some nice 'scores' from Cabelas over the past couple of years, due to the fact that they have no clue about many of their lugers. Unfortunately, they also have some near-junk for sale at ridiculous prices as well. Caveat Emptor, indeed.

04-14-2014, 01:35 AM	#10
Soldat222 User Join Date: May 2013 Location: Philadelphia, PA Posts: 19 Thanks: 0 Thanked 2 Times in 2 Posts	They were asking $1,499.99 is seems.

04-14-2014, 07:39 AM	#11
JTD User Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: PA Posts: 428 Thanks: 218 Thanked 410 Times in 151 Posts	Sometimes things are better off left un-said................

04-19-2014, 01:50 PM	#13
George Anderson Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: VA Posts: 3,592 Thanks: 1,773 Thanked 2,531 Times in 788 Posts	Well, the 1908 from Cabelas arrived this week and I'm quite pleased with it. It has joined with its long lost sister: 1908 sn 1213, 123.R.M.G.51. 1908 sn 1288, 123.R.M.G.54. The latter has two matching mags and matching holster and a friend on the left coast is sending me the matching mag for the former, 1213.

04-19-2014, 01:56 PM	#14
cirelaw Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: PORT ST LUCIE, FLORIDA Posts: 12,216 Thanks: 6,209 Thanked 4,138 Times in 2,176 Posts	The Mel Fisher of Lugers!! Congrads!

04-19-2014, 02:43 PM	#15
drbuster User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: San Mateo, California Posts: 1,432 Thanks: 2 Thanked 71 Times in 56 Posts	Eric, do you mean the Mel TORME of lugers?

04-19-2014, 03:33 PM	#16
cirelaw Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: PORT ST LUCIE, FLORIDA Posts: 12,216 Thanks: 6,209 Thanked 4,138 Times in 2,176 Posts	I chose Mel Fisher who located the Spanish wreck the Atocha down the Florida keys. Treasure over 100 million. I can no longer dive so like George I must confine my treasure hunting to way cool LUGERS! ~~Eric