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Unread 01-31-2014, 09:35 PM   #1
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I was somewhat skeptical of the Blue Dot loads that Speer recommended for the 9mm Luger cartridge in their 1987 manual. So I measured out a couple loads and poured them in a 9mm case. Here's what Speer recommends as max loads of Blue Dot for -

95gr FMJ bullet = 9.8gr Blue Dot

115gr FMJ bullet = 8.9gr Blue Dot

Here's my cases...With weighed loads...[pic attached]...

When the Freedom Arms 454 Casull first came out, I bought one of the 'field grade' 8 3/8" bbl stainless revolvers. One of the recommended handloads used a compressed charge of two different powders, layered not mixed. (There was no powder available at that time that would give the energy/velocity that FA advertised). It was pretty scary to shoot, and 'bone jarring' is an understatement.

I imagine these loads that Speer recommends for the 9mm Luger cartridge would be scary, and bone jarring, too...
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I was somewhat skeptical of the Blue Dot loads that Speer recommended for the 9mm Luger cartridge in their 1987 manual. So I measured out a couple loads and poured them in a 9mm case. Here's what Speer recommends as max loads of Blue Dot for -

95gr FMJ bullet = 9.8gr Blue Dot

115gr FMJ bullet = 8.9gr Blue Dot

Here's my cases...With weighed loads...[pic attached]...
Hi,

To me, these loads are DANGEROUSLY HOT, and shouldn't even be listed here, less someone actually try to load them!!!

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Blue Dot is superb in 357Sig at or near max loadings. Extremely accurate with excellent velocity. The flash/bang is also very impressive, especially if you are shooting at an indoor range with a short barreled handgun. I wear ear plugs and muffs for those occasions!!


Loading BD at mid range loads will usually always shoot dirty with a lot of unburned powder. Sort of like 2400 loaded light in 44 Mag. brass. They are both magnum powders like H110, but not as tricky.
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I've used Green Dot for years in 9mm, .40 S&W, and .45 ACP. All loads have achieved good accuracy and soft recoil. KW
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Blue dot loads for Lugers has been discussed here quite a bit.
Hmmmmm...I did a Search; there does seem to be a lot of threads with Blue Dot in them...Quite a few before my time here...

There was one comment that made me laugh...That there's no possibility of double-charging with Blue Dot...
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I would surmise that the blue dot over charge comment is from a particular point of view, ie Luger type cases; and perhaps a bit of conjecture there as well.
Yes, specifically 9mm Luger cartridges. It was in this thread, post #3 -

http://forum.lugerforum.com/showthread.php?t=17722

I don't recognize the member, but he specifically states that his loads (not the maximum ones Speer lists) functioned 100% in his Lugers. The Speer handbook cites the Beretta 92SB as the test pistol for these loadings, not the P-08 Luger.
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Yes, specifically 9mm Luger cartridges. It was in this thread, post #3 -

http://forum.lugerforum.com/showthread.php?t=17722

I don't recognize the member, but he specifically states that his loads (not the maximum ones Speer lists) functioned 100% in his Lugers. The Speer handbook cites the Beretta 92SB as the test pistol for these loadings, not the P-08 Luger.
Hi,

Just about any pistol powder can be made to function a Luger. The real question is: which one will provide the most accurate, most powerful (within the original specs. of 123 grain bullet at 1,076 fps) and most consistent handloads?

Blue Dot, simply, will not do that for me in a 4 inch barreled Luger.

If you value your Luger, please do not attempt to shoot +P or +P+ loads of any kind through it, as it was not designed to handle them and they will, eventually wreck your pistol!!!


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