Mauser "2-digit"?

[johnii]

I think your above chamber area says "42" instead of "1942" and the Mauser Banner is something I am not familiar with. I have read the thread and know your gun is Mauser by the Mauser Bump but whether it was Military or not I don't know enough. I see where other posts say it is commercial or some such and to tell you the truth I don't think it is Third Reich issue from what I know.

Lots of Luger pistols were made for civilians and Swiss and such commanding extreme prices. The moment a P-08 seems hard to define is the moment to figure it out after careful and timely research. The next thing I'd ask is if it shoots reliably without a hiccup. If it hiccups I'd get rid of it. Who wants a pistol that cannot function?

[johnii]

I have no straw to throw into this post. I have seen "strawed" P-08s and when I do they are rather costly. They are for serious collectors who collect and decide never to shoot the gun for function.

I only own working guns and I will not own a gun that doesn't work. Period.

[Edward Tinker]

Originally Posted by johnii

I have no straw to throw into this post. I have seen "strawed" P-08s and when I do they are rather costly. They are for serious collectors who collect and decide never to shoot the gun for function.

I only own working guns and I will not own a gun that doesn't work. Period.

What the ? That is your opinion, so why are you pushing it so hard?

I would buy a few books and then decide if it is military or commercial. Although I understand what is said above, I disagree, if it is dated, the I am of the opinion it was bought for the army or police - a non dated commercial piece would be a Mauser Banner non dated IMHO

[johnii]

Originally Posted by Edward Tinker

What the ? That is your opinion, so why are you pushing it so hard?

I would buy a few books and then decide if it is military or commercial. Although I understand what is said above, I disagree, if it is dated, the I am of the opinion it was bought for the army or police - a non dated commercial piece would be a Mauser Banner non dated IMHO

I don't own German Police Lugers. I own S/42 Soldier sidearms under the Third Reich. I own no Commercial or other. I won't own Swiss or Navy or some other. I will only own a true sidearm issued to the Third Reich. I am not a "collector" of rare Swiss or Navy Lugers. I am a Soldier retired and I want Soldier Weapons instead of rare things. I want Soldier Weapons that fire and work TO DATE because I like FIRING my guns.

Is this a collecting forum prejudiced against working P-08s like I have?
Tell me now and I'll get the hell out of here.

[Patronen]

Is this a collecting forum prejudiced against working P-08s like I have?
Tell me now and I'll get the hell out of here.

Fire away!
It's your guns.
If you break a part on an all matching numbers gun and or ruin a collectible it's all you and your dime.

[johnii]

Originally Posted by Patronen

Fire away!
It's your guns.
If you break a part on an all matching numbers gun and or ruin a collectible it's all you and your dime.

I don't think any of my matching parts are going to break anytime soon with firing.

The joy of owning a Luger P-08 (to me) is the firing. They are extremely accurate compared to the Beretta M-9 in 9mm as well as the Hi Power Browning in 9mm as well as the Czech 75-B or Czechoslovkian before the "B" model of CZ 75.

I like 9mm autos and I've had quiet a few since the 1970's. Even the SW 59 and 39.

My opinion is shooting a P-08 is more fun than shooting most other 9mm semi autos made today or yesteryear. There is another 9mm I have that I enjoy, the SIG P210. I enjoy the Hi Power and the P-38s along with the CZ-75 and Beretta M-9.

On the other hand, I'd like to own and collect more P-08s at this time that I would not fire because I already have enough firing P-08s and others to feel fine shooting just them.

My next endeavor might not be an S/42. It might be a .30 Luger P-08 to shoot a couple of times and put away!

I think you are swaying me to really dive into some rare P-08s but at least I am admitting it now.

[phillyny]

As the initiator of this thread, I guess I'll jump in. I get notified every time someone posts to this thread, so out of curiosity, I've been lurking and following along!

Anyway, the original pistol was sold shortly after I posted to this site by a long-time member. He was very happy with the price and once he received the pistol, the overall condition. Me and my friend were very pleased that it went to a good "home." The member knowledge and helpfulness on this site have been superb. Many thanks to all that assisted.

I didn't shoot this P08 but I have shot a friends P08 many times. I'm dumbfounded by the accuracy. I'm sure it's a result of the fixed barrel and high quality manufacture. I suppose this may have been a detraction for this weapon in war use since the toggle system, while being accurate must very very tough to keep clean in battlefield conditions. I shoot a Glock 17 in IDPA competition and although not pretty or accurate, the thing is as reliable as a hammer.

I shoot at least once a week and have quite a few semi-auto and revolvers. The only gun that I own that comes close to the P08 in accuracy are my H&K USP's. My Beretta 92FS and Browning Hi-Power are nice guns but are nowhere near the accuracy of the P08. Like Johnii, I shoot pretty much everything I have but I do collect long guns (Winchester 1890's). I shoot those on special occasions but there is little chance of breakage with .22 WRF's and for the most part, they are safe queens.

[Edward Tinker]

Originally Posted by johnii

I don't own German Police Lugers. I own S/42 Soldier sidearms under the Third Reich. I own no Commercial or other. I won't own Swiss or Navy or some other. I will only own a true sidearm issued to the Third Reich. I am not a "collector" of rare Swiss or Navy Lugers. I am a Soldier retired and e.

Well, I changed my mind, and quit arguing with this guy. He's just trouble IMHO.

[sheepherder]

Originally Posted by Edward Tinker

Well, I changed my mind, and quit arguing with this guy. He's just trouble IMHO.

Your restraint has been admirable...

[alvin]

Originally Posted by johnii

Who wants a pistol that cannot function?

Actually, many people want a pistol that cannot function. Cutaway is a typical example. If factory, it usually goes higher than normal production pistols due to the volume is tiny. It could go very high, out of my reach, but who's bidding on those?? Must be dedicated collectors who have many instances of that type of gun. It's hard to imagine people could interest in it if that is not in their main domain... the reason is simple -- it's not functional. For its collectors, it's a rare find.

Even for normal pistols, if has one, it's surely for shooting. Starting from 2 to above, there are many combinations of ways to play this. Typical collector have 20-30 guns of same type, it's very uncommon to see him shooting all of those, due to curiosity is out of picture. The "I shoot everything that I have" statement typically implies different types of guns in the collection so shooting curiosity goes on and on. Even for same type of guns, say, firing 4" Luger is different from firing 8" Luger, there is a driver for shooting.... but firing a 1936 S/42 is not very different from firing a byf 42.

If someone had experience on firing Shansei .45ACP Broomhandle, please post a range report. Really curious on it's working or not.... Don't know yet. I mean, genuine one made in 1920s.