$650 for a P08 Barrel!

aldo35 · 11-29-2013, 10:38 PM

Hi,

What am I missing? There is a used P08 barrel on eBay, item 251387977641, for which there there have been 48 bids and the current bid is $650.

Aldo35

G.T. · 11-29-2013, 10:56 PM

If you look at the bidding history, no credibility... shill bids for an insane auction... unless you have that number pistol...still...more want, than brains.. for $650.00, I'll make you one....

.. best to all, til...lat'r...GT

Edward Tinker · 11-29-2013, 11:09 PM

http://www.ebay.com/itm/251387977641...641%26_rdc%3D1

It might be a shill helpers, but i know this seller and many here do and. He's a straight shooter...

Arizona Slim · 11-29-2013, 11:29 PM

So, who's going to be the winner? n***0 or a***5, I think n***o hit his limit and the barrel will go to a***5.

Lon

Zorba · 11-30-2013, 12:08 AM

Idiots on eBay will bid stuff up past the cost of a new one! I've seen it again and again. *shrug* Whatever!

kubel · 11-30-2013, 01:15 AM

People let egos override being rational. To some people, paying a lot more than it's worth for something is less painful than getting beat out of it. Ebay loves it when this happens.....

Sergio Natali · 11-30-2013, 06:20 AM

Dear Aldo, on e-bey you can find a lot of nonse!

G.T. · 11-30-2013, 12:17 PM

OK, I believe Ed when he says the seller is straight up.... certainly not his problem in someone wants that particular barrel that bad.. And, being that there is at least two of them bidding, maybe we're missing something here?? The number is strange to me, but rare and early examples usually are, and there is not much to reference to?? My only logical guess is that this barrel may be a 1902 9mm fat barrel?? Or, an early prototype??? I can't really tell by the picture perspective.. It's my one and only guess...

... best to all, til..lat'r...GT....

Just looked at the pic again...cut for a late extractor??....not 1902... oh well.... back to the crazy theory.....

DavidJayUden · 11-30-2013, 12:39 PM

Interesting that after $55 all bidders have either only 1 or 0 prior bid history. I'm doubting that the seller will ever see that kind of money in his hand from that barrel.
But who knows? They say that these things happen. But never on MY sales...
dju

kubel · 11-30-2013, 01:10 PM

Quote:

But who knows? They say that these things happen. But never on MY sales...

Haha....nope, mine neither.

aldo35 · 11-30-2013, 08:47 PM

Hi,

How can you tell who is bidding? I have only seen the current bid.

I agree with some other comments, I have watched several auctions and seen astronomical final bids for rather ordinary parts which on GB auctions sell at reasonable prices.

Aldo35

aldo35 · 11-30-2013, 08:54 PM

Hi,

I just went to see this auction and now the barrel is $56!

Aldo35

Edward Tinker · 11-30-2013, 09:05 PM

I have to assume that one of the bidders pulled his bids, as you can see one bidder has numerous bids - this appears to me that all of anothers bids were dropped or pulled by the other bidder - I have been screwed by a bidder bidding it way up and then at the last moment someone pulls all their bids and the item drops way down...

Bid retraction and cancellation history

Bidder

Action Date of Bid and Retraction

Member Id: n***o

( 0 )

Retracted: US $650.00
Bid: Nov-29-13 07:20:30 PST
Retracted: Nov-30-13 14:49:39 PST

CAP Black · 11-30-2013, 09:19 PM

That can happen in that manner???????
Wow.
Jack

Edward Tinker · 11-30-2013, 09:48 PM

yes, over the years I have sold on ebay, it has happened a couple of times. In this case I just think one ebayer pulled out. But I have had bids pulled / had the item 'reported' and it gets pulled by ebay - yet there were scores, if not a couple of hundred of same item on ebay (was legal software) - people can play dirty on ebay and it can be frustrating, but out of a thousand deals, only had a handful that were bad?

Ben M. · 12-01-2013, 12:16 PM

what reasons do ebay allow for a bidder to take back bids?

sheepherder · 12-01-2013, 02:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ben M.

what reasons do ebay allow for a bidder to take back bids?

How 'bout "My 12 year old kid bid on it and thought it was funny"...

alvin · 12-01-2013, 03:42 PM

Probably have to open a case to cancel bid.

Alternatively, it must be easy to call Ebay service representative to cancel bid. They won't force bidder to buy things that he does not like, or changes mind.

But $650 historical bid proved one thing -- $650 was virtually nothing for bidders, as long as no one says it's too high

The price of a steel tube can be anywhere, $50, or $650.

Edward Tinker · 12-01-2013, 04:05 PM

It shows on your ebay 'record' for six months or a year that you retracted a bid. \

But all it takes is for the bidder to fill out a form and it just occurs unless they have changed it and that I doubt.

kubel · 12-01-2013, 05:37 PM

Never let any bidder with "0" feedback bid on your items without prior permission. Too many people create multiple accounts and frequent user name changes to shill bid.

11-29-2013, 10:38 PM	#1
aldo35 User Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: Northern GA Posts: 343 Thanks: 2,220 Thanked 146 Times in 76 Posts	$650 for a P08 Barrel! Hi, What am I missing? There is a used P08 barrel on eBay, item 251387977641, for which there there have been 48 bids and the current bid is $650. Aldo35

11-29-2013, 10:56 PM	#2
G.T. Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Chandler Arizona Posts: 3,507 Thanks: 1,318 Thanked 3,653 Times in 1,004 Posts	shill bids... If you look at the bidding history, no credibility... shill bids for an insane auction... unless you have that number pistol...still...more want, than brains.. for $650.00, I'll make you one.... .. best to all, til...lat'r...GT

11-29-2013, 11:09 PM	#3
Edward Tinker Super Moderator Eternal Lifer LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: North of Spokane, WA Posts: 15,933 Thanks: 2,032 Thanked 4,530 Times in 2,092 Posts	http://www.ebay.com/itm/251387977641...641%26_rdc%3D1 It might be a shill helpers, but i know this seller and many here do and. He's a straight shooter... __________________ Edward Tinker ************ Co-Author of Police Lugers - Co-Author of Simson Lugers Author of Veteran Bring Backs Vol I, Vol II, Vol III and Vol IV

11-30-2013, 06:20 AM	#7
Sergio Natali User Join Date: Feb 2013 Location: Somewhere in Northern Italy Posts: 2,646 Thanks: 1,082 Thanked 1,783 Times in 1,007 Posts	Dear Aldo, on e-bey you can find a lot of nonse! __________________ "Originality can't be restored and should be at the top of any collector's priority list.

11-30-2013, 12:17 PM	#8
G.T. Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Chandler Arizona Posts: 3,507 Thanks: 1,318 Thanked 3,653 Times in 1,004 Posts	barrel... OK, I believe Ed when he says the seller is straight up.... certainly not his problem in someone wants that particular barrel that bad.. And, being that there is at least two of them bidding, maybe we're missing something here?? The number is strange to me, but rare and early examples usually are, and there is not much to reference to?? My only logical guess is that this barrel may be a 1902 9mm fat barrel?? Or, an early prototype??? I can't really tell by the picture perspective.. It's my one and only guess...... best to all, til..lat'r...GT.... Just looked at the pic again...cut for a late extractor??....not 1902... oh well.... back to the crazy theory.....

11-29-2013, 11:29 PM	#4
Arizona Slim Patron LugerForum Patron Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Illinois Posts: 706 Thanks: 1,026 Thanked 409 Times in 225 Posts	So, who's going to be the winner? n*0 or a5, I think no hit his limit and the barrel will go to a*5. Lon

11-30-2013, 12:08 AM	#5
Zorba User Join Date: Feb 2013 Location: Merritt Island, Fl Posts: 952 Thanks: 777 Thanked 527 Times in 290 Posts	Idiots on eBay will bid stuff up past the cost of a new one! I've seen it again and again. shrug Whatever!

11-30-2013, 01:15 AM	#6
kubel User Join Date: Dec 2012 Location: Ohio Posts: 124 Thanks: 5 Thanked 32 Times in 20 Posts	People let egos override being rational. To some people, paying a lot more than it's worth for something is less painful than getting beat out of it. Ebay loves it when this happens.....

11-30-2013, 12:39 PM	#9
DavidJayUden Patron LugerForum Patron Join Date: Nov 2008 Posts: 4,047 Thanks: 578 Thanked 1,414 Times in 887 Posts	Interesting that after $55 all bidders have either only 1 or 0 prior bid history. I'm doubting that the seller will ever see that kind of money in his hand from that barrel. But who knows? They say that these things happen. But never on MY sales... dju

11-30-2013, 08:47 PM	#11
aldo35 User Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: Northern GA Posts: 343 Thanks: 2,220 Thanked 146 Times in 76 Posts	$650 luger barrel Hi, How can you tell who is bidding? I have only seen the current bid. I agree with some other comments, I have watched several auctions and seen astronomical final bids for rather ordinary parts which on GB auctions sell at reasonable prices. Aldo35

11-30-2013, 08:54 PM	#12
aldo35 User Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: Northern GA Posts: 343 Thanks: 2,220 Thanked 146 Times in 76 Posts	$650 luger barrel Hi, I just went to see this auction and now the barrel is $56! Aldo35

11-30-2013, 09:05 PM	#13
Edward Tinker Super Moderator Eternal Lifer LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: North of Spokane, WA Posts: 15,933 Thanks: 2,032 Thanked 4,530 Times in 2,092 Posts	I have to assume that one of the bidders pulled his bids, as you can see one bidder has numerous bids - this appears to me that all of anothers bids were dropped or pulled by the other bidder - I have been screwed by a bidder bidding it way up and then at the last moment someone pulls all their bids and the item drops way down... Bid retraction and cancellation history Bidder Action Date of Bid and Retraction Member Id: n*o ( 0 ) Retracted: US $650.00 Bid: Nov-29-13 07:20:30 PST Retracted:** Nov-30-13 14:49:39 PST

11-30-2013, 09:19 PM	#14
CAP Black User Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Fairmont, WV Right here in Mountaineer country and God's country Posts: 767 Thanks: 100 Thanked 168 Times in 96 Posts	That can happen in that manner??????? Wow. Jack

11-30-2013, 09:48 PM	#15
Edward Tinker Super Moderator Eternal Lifer LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: North of Spokane, WA Posts: 15,933 Thanks: 2,032 Thanked 4,530 Times in 2,092 Posts	yes, over the years I have sold on ebay, it has happened a couple of times. In this case I just think one ebayer pulled out. But I have had bids pulled / had the item 'reported' and it gets pulled by ebay - yet there were scores, if not a couple of hundred of same item on ebay (was legal software) - people can play dirty on ebay and it can be frustrating, but out of a thousand deals, only had a handful that were bad?

12-01-2013, 12:16 PM	#16
Ben M. User Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Retired to Naples, FL. Posts: 488 Thanks: 90 Thanked 123 Times in 83 Posts	what reasons do ebay allow for a bidder to take back bids?

12-01-2013, 03:42 PM	#18
alvin User Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: US Posts: 3,843 Thanks: 132 Thanked 729 Times in 438 Posts	Probably have to open a case to cancel bid. Alternatively, it must be easy to call Ebay service representative to cancel bid. They won't force bidder to buy things that he does not like, or changes mind. But $650 historical bid proved one thing -- $650 was virtually nothing for bidders, as long as no one says it's too high The price of a steel tube can be anywhere, $50, or $650.

12-01-2013, 04:05 PM	#19
Edward Tinker Super Moderator Eternal Lifer LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: North of Spokane, WA Posts: 15,933 Thanks: 2,032 Thanked 4,530 Times in 2,092 Posts	It shows on your ebay 'record' for six months or a year that you retracted a bid. \ But all it takes is for the bidder to fill out a form and it just occurs unless they have changed it and that I doubt. __________________ Edward Tinker ************ Co-Author of Police Lugers - Co-Author of Simson Lugers Author of Veteran Bring Backs Vol I, Vol II, Vol III and Vol IV

12-01-2013, 05:37 PM	#20
kubel User Join Date: Dec 2012 Location: Ohio Posts: 124 Thanks: 5 Thanked 32 Times in 20 Posts	Never let any bidder with "0" feedback bid on your items without prior permission. Too many people create multiple accounts and frequent user name changes to shill bid.