Help Identifying Mauser P08

winkzoot · 11-02-2013, 09:47 PM

I recently recieved a Mauser P08. Below is what I know about it but I would like to know more about it including approximate value and weather or not it should be a shooter.

Here is what I know with some pictures.

Maker: Mauser
Chamber Inscription: 1939
No grip safety
Stock lug present
9 mm
All the numbers that I can see match including one of the mags. The second mag does not match.

This is a mark I have not found any information on:

Thanks again for all the help.

DavidJayUden · 11-02-2013, 10:47 PM

Looks to me like a Mauser "Banner" Luger designated for police use. From what I see it appears original. The finish is a bit glossy but I believe that to be correct and original.
We'd need to see more photos of the markings on the mag. to be certain that it was an original issue item vs. a police re-issue item.
These are not really my area, as the Mauser guns are not all that common, but I'll take a WAG at around $2k or a bit more, assuming all matching and one matching mag.
It is a very nice gun and if you shoot it and break a numbered part it will be worth about 1/2 or 2/3 as much. It would be a fine shooter, just financially risky. Now the choice is yours.
dju

DavidJayUden · 11-02-2013, 10:50 PM

I didn't recognize that you were the owner of the Navy posted earlier today.
Say, that is some Grampa you have, or had. Both extra-ordinary guns.
Sorry, but I'm still not seeing a shooter...
dju

wlyon · 11-02-2013, 11:34 PM

There are many mismatched lugers to be shot. But not that one. My two cents. Bill

mrerick · 11-03-2013, 08:32 AM

Hi Jon, and welcome to the forum.

You have a relatively rare 1939 commercial Mauser Banner luger in the "v" block.

It appears to be in it's original factory state, with original finish that has light wear.

If all the numbered parts are matching, this is a very collectable firearm.

Simpson's Ltd currently lists two of these in similar condition without the matching magazine. They are priced at $3750 to $4250 retail.

http://www.simpsonltd.com/index.php?...4b97796a770d9e

Your gun with the matching magazine (if original) would be worth more.

I personally would never take the chance of damaging this Luger by firing it.

Congratulations on a very fine collectable...

mystical_tutor · 11-03-2013, 08:36 AM

Is there a story with this? If so preserving it for your family is a serious consideration. I have seen only one really nice one done up. A fellow brought to the gun show to show me. He had the Luger mounted in a glass case with some other items his father brought back and the letter from his unit commander allowing him to take it home.

Hope you do. If not, it is always worth the memory you have of him. Shoot it if that brings you closer. Much more valuable than money.

Actually I am a pro "shoot your Lugers" guy but I'm the minority here. I think some of these folks wouldn't even play golf if they had a matching set of Homma clubs...

Gary

winkzoot · 11-03-2013, 10:53 PM

Thanks for the excellent information and advice. I am curious about the eagle/K marking on the right hand side. I looked at the technical informaion section and it looks similar to proof mark 49. It appears in the last picture above. Any information will be greatly appreciated.

Edward Tinker · 11-03-2013, 11:27 PM

The eagle on the right is the police acceptance marking

And anyone can shoot their guns, but yes, breachblocks do get damaged and so if willing to risk or can afford it; then you can risk a $3000+ dollar gun losing more than half its value.

I have no idea what a Horma golf club is but I am assuming it is not 70 years old?
Are they still made?

As they say, go ahead, shoot it, makes my 1939 police have more value at every shot

Tony Min · 11-03-2013, 11:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Edward Tinker

The eagle on the right is the police acceptance marking

And anyone can shoot their guns, but yes, breachblocks do get damaged and so if willing to risk or can afford it; then you can risk a $3000+ dollar gun losing more than half its value.

I have no idea what a Horma golf club is but I am assuming it is not 70 years old?
Are they still made?

As they say, go ahead, shoot it, makes my 1939 police have more value at every shot

I am the moron that shoots his guns. I might not shoot that one a lot though. I would maybe shoot it a little and put it away. There are lesser Lugers one can shoot for the heck of it.

mystical_tutor · 11-04-2013, 02:06 AM

Ed,

Homma clubs are just rich man's toys. Though they cost 2-10K a set they must not be all that great because you don't see the big players using them at events. I used the parallelism because they also are serial numbered as a set, collectible and can break in usage. If I had a set, I'd probably use it. If I did, and I broke a club I would be man enough to shoulder the responsibility of my choice.

I do hope we can disagree on this point without being disagreeable.

Gary

Sergio Natali · 11-04-2013, 06:38 AM

Sorry but I agree comppletely with Edward, I m a "Luger fundamentalist" :-) and I always tend to treat all my collectibles guns like old precious relics from the past, still it's a matter of personal choice.

Now coming to the point, first of all welcome to this forum made by LUGER enthusiasts; I think that you've got quite a nice MAUSER "Banner" made in 1939, " that has quite well kept during all these years, check it properly inside if it is all matching, magazine included.

Sergio Natali · 11-04-2013, 06:38 AM

Sorry but I agree comppletely with Edward, I m a "Luger fundamentalist" :-) and I always tend to treat all my collectibles guns like old precious relics from the past, still it's a matter of personal choice.

Now coming to the point, first of all welcome to this forum made by LUGER enthusiasts; I think that you've got quite a nice MAUSER "Banner" made in 1939, " that has quite well kept during all these years, check it properly inside if it is all matching, magazine included.

Gebirg · 11-04-2013, 03:35 PM

I fire my P.08 whenever i want to - its a 1940 by 42

11-02-2013, 09:47 PM	#1
winkzoot User Join Date: Oct 2013 Posts: 10 Thanks: 1 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post	Help Identifying Mauser P08 I recently recieved a Mauser P08. Below is what I know about it but I would like to know more about it including approximate value and weather or not it should be a shooter. Here is what I know with some pictures. Maker: Mauser Chamber Inscription: 1939 No grip safety Stock lug present 9 mm All the numbers that I can see match including one of the mags. The second mag does not match. This is a mark I have not found any information on: Thanks again for all the help.

11-02-2013, 11:34 PM	#4
wlyon Lifer 2X Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: May 2005 Location: Somewhere in Montana Posts: 2,619 Thanks: 3,145 Thanked 2,531 Times in 943 Posts	There are many mismatched lugers to be shot. But not that one. My two cents. Bill __________________ Bill Lyon

11-03-2013, 08:32 AM	#5
mrerick Super Moderator - Patron LugerForum Life Patron Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Eastern North Carolina, USA Posts: 3,901 Thanks: 1,372 Thanked 3,094 Times in 1,503 Posts	Hi Jon, and welcome to the forum. You have a relatively rare 1939 commercial Mauser Banner luger in the "v" block. It appears to be in it's original factory state, with original finish that has light wear. If all the numbered parts are matching, this is a very collectable firearm. Simpson's Ltd currently lists two of these in similar condition without the matching magazine. They are priced at $3750 to $4250 retail. http://www.simpsonltd.com/index.php?...4b97796a770d9e Your gun with the matching magazine (if original) would be worth more. I personally would never take the chance of damaging this Luger by firing it. Congratulations on a very fine collectable... __________________ Igitur si vis pacem, para bellum - - Therefore if you want peace, prepare for war.

11-04-2013, 06:38 AM	#11
Sergio Natali User Join Date: Feb 2013 Location: Somewhere in Northern Italy Posts: 2,646 Thanks: 1,082 Thanked 1,783 Times in 1,007 Posts	Sorry but I agree comppletely with Edward, I m a "Luger fundamentalist" :-) and I always tend to treat all my collectibles guns like old precious relics from the past, still it's a matter of personal choice. Now coming to the point, first of all welcome to this forum made by LUGER enthusiasts; I think that you've got quite a nice MAUSER "Banner" made in 1939, " that has quite well kept during all these years, check it properly inside if it is all matching, magazine included. __________________ "Originality can't be restored and should be at the top of any collector's priority list.

11-04-2013, 06:38 AM	#12
Sergio Natali User Join Date: Feb 2013 Location: Somewhere in Northern Italy Posts: 2,646 Thanks: 1,082 Thanked 1,783 Times in 1,007 Posts	Sorry but I agree comppletely with Edward, I m a "Luger fundamentalist" :-) and I always tend to treat all my collectibles guns like old precious relics from the past, still it's a matter of personal choice. Now coming to the point, first of all welcome to this forum made by LUGER enthusiasts; I think that you've got quite a nice MAUSER "Banner" made in 1939, " that has quite well kept during all these years, check it properly inside if it is all matching, magazine included. __________________ "Originality can't be restored and should be at the top of any collector's priority list.

11-02-2013, 10:47 PM	#2
DavidJayUden Patron LugerForum Patron Join Date: Nov 2008 Posts: 4,047 Thanks: 578 Thanked 1,414 Times in 887 Posts	Looks to me like a Mauser "Banner" Luger designated for police use. From what I see it appears original. The finish is a bit glossy but I believe that to be correct and original. We'd need to see more photos of the markings on the mag. to be certain that it was an original issue item vs. a police re-issue item. These are not really my area, as the Mauser guns are not all that common, but I'll take a WAG at around $2k or a bit more, assuming all matching and one matching mag. It is a very nice gun and if you shoot it and break a numbered part it will be worth about 1/2 or 2/3 as much. It would be a fine shooter, just financially risky. Now the choice is yours. dju

11-02-2013, 10:50 PM	#3
DavidJayUden Patron LugerForum Patron Join Date: Nov 2008 Posts: 4,047 Thanks: 578 Thanked 1,414 Times in 887 Posts	I didn't recognize that you were the owner of the Navy posted earlier today. Say, that is some Grampa you have, or had. Both extra-ordinary guns. Sorry, but I'm still not seeing a shooter... dju

11-03-2013, 08:36 AM	#6
mystical_tutor User Join Date: Dec 2008 Posts: 230 Thanks: 32 Thanked 39 Times in 25 Posts	Is there a story with this? If so preserving it for your family is a serious consideration. I have seen only one really nice one done up. A fellow brought to the gun show to show me. He had the Luger mounted in a glass case with some other items his father brought back and the letter from his unit commander allowing him to take it home. Hope you do. If not, it is always worth the memory you have of him. Shoot it if that brings you closer. Much more valuable than money. Actually I am a pro "shoot your Lugers" guy but I'm the minority here. I think some of these folks wouldn't even play golf if they had a matching set of Homma clubs... Gary

11-03-2013, 10:53 PM	#7
winkzoot User Join Date: Oct 2013 Posts: 10 Thanks: 1 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post	Thanks for the excellent information and advice. I am curious about the eagle/K marking on the right hand side. I looked at the technical informaion section and it looks similar to proof mark 49. It appears in the last picture above. Any information will be greatly appreciated.

11-03-2013, 11:27 PM	#8
Edward Tinker Super Moderator Eternal Lifer LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: North of Spokane, WA Posts: 15,916 Thanks: 1,992 Thanked 4,507 Times in 2,081 Posts	The eagle on the right is the police acceptance marking And anyone can shoot their guns, but yes, breachblocks do get damaged and so if willing to risk or can afford it; then you can risk a $3000+ dollar gun losing more than half its value. I have no idea what a Horma golf club is but I am assuming it is not 70 years old? Are they still made? As they say, go ahead, shoot it, makes my 1939 police have more value at every shot

11-04-2013, 02:06 AM	#10
mystical_tutor User Join Date: Dec 2008 Posts: 230 Thanks: 32 Thanked 39 Times in 25 Posts	Ed, Homma clubs are just rich man's toys. Though they cost 2-10K a set they must not be all that great because you don't see the big players using them at events. I used the parallelism because they also are serial numbered as a set, collectible and can break in usage. If I had a set, I'd probably use it. If I did, and I broke a club I would be man enough to shoulder the responsibility of my choice. I do hope we can disagree on this point without being disagreeable. Gary

11-04-2013, 03:35 PM	#13
Gebirg User Join Date: Oct 2012 Location: Telemark Posts: 94 Thanks: 68 Thanked 158 Times in 34 Posts	I fire my P.08 whenever i want to - its a 1940 by 42 __________________ Mr. AKB - Norway "SILENT LEGES INTER ARMA" Denn unter den Waffen schweigen die Gesetze (M.T.Cicero)