DHS Siezes Collectable firearm

tsmgguy · 03-27-2013, 02:51 PM

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/...st-gun-owners/

To see this rifle, click on the link below, and then on 'Semi-Automatic'. It's the top rifle on the page that comes up, I believe:

http://www.collectiblefirearms.com/R...nMilitary.html

This rifle is an incredible find. Take your time with the pics.

Does this mean that we all have to be concerned about any collectable firearm that's ever transited US borders? I rather doubt it. The return of this one was specifically requested by the Polish government. It was looted by the Germans after Poland fell early in WWII. The fact that it might have been seen as legitmate war booty by some GI and later his family means little. The same process is used to recover artwork and other looted assets.

Mr. Gasior's only error might have been to offer this rifle for sale. It's existance then became known.

mrerick · 03-27-2013, 03:26 PM

Your first link is broken...

alvin · 03-27-2013, 03:27 PM

>> "The return of this one was specifically requested by the Polish government."

He's listing it at a price, why didn't Polish government simply buy it back ?

lew1 · 03-27-2013, 06:26 PM

The first link does not work for me either.

lew1 · 03-27-2013, 06:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by alvin

>> "The return of this one was specifically requested by the Polish government."

He's listing it at a price, why didn't Polish government simply buy it back ?

Why buy it back when you might get it for free?

mrerick · 03-27-2013, 08:23 PM

Here's the correct link:

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/...st-gun-owners/

alvin · 03-28-2013, 07:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lew1

Why buy it back when you might get it for free?

At least, paying $$ can prevent the current owner doing any damage to the gun, for example, engraving his name on the metal or wood stock. Not saying he would do that, but people's behavior in fury is hard to predict.

And, for Polish government, that gun's cost can be ignored. Going though other ways is not free either.

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Never mind. Just read the news in mrerick's link. Too late. It's simply robbery in home.

mrerick · 03-28-2013, 10:01 AM

I wonder if it's not considered a legitimate "War Prize" because Poland was on our side?

Marc

lew1 · 03-28-2013, 10:22 AM

Wait until they come for the lugers and other weapons. Especially those taken from the displays at the Mauser factory.

nukem556 · 03-28-2013, 10:56 AM

By what stretch of the imagination does this matter fall under the purview of the DHS??? None of their business.

This, and not the Twin Towers, has been the jihadists greatest victory against freedom.....they've given our government the excuse to march towards totalitarianism...the DHS is the new Gestapo.

Curly1 · 03-28-2013, 11:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nukem556

By what stretch of the imagination does this matter fall under the purview of the DHS???.

Probably cause the DHS can do as they plez in the name of our "security"

alvin · 03-28-2013, 04:03 PM

We should feel lucky. It's good to know that Polish government is interested in Polish guns only. They won't come to confiscate German guns.

Curly1 · 03-28-2013, 08:32 PM

Well they might for war reparations.

Ron Wood · 03-28-2013, 09:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by alvin

We should feel lucky. It's good to know that Polish government is interested in Polish guns only. They won't come to confiscate German guns.

If Poland gets away with it, how long will it be until other countries jump on the bandwagon?

alvin · 03-29-2013, 05:53 AM

Ron, I agree with you. This world is out of order.

03-27-2013, 02:51 PM	#1
tsmgguy User Join Date: Feb 2013 Posts: 9 Thanks: 2 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	DHS Siezes Collectable firearm http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/...st-gun-owners/ To see this rifle, click on the link below, and then on 'Semi-Automatic'. It's the top rifle on the page that comes up, I believe: http://www.collectiblefirearms.com/R...nMilitary.html This rifle is an incredible find. Take your time with the pics. Does this mean that we all have to be concerned about any collectable firearm that's ever transited US borders? I rather doubt it. The return of this one was specifically requested by the Polish government. It was looted by the Germans after Poland fell early in WWII. The fact that it might have been seen as legitmate war booty by some GI and later his family means little. The same process is used to recover artwork and other looted assets. Mr. Gasior's only error might have been to offer this rifle for sale. It's existance then became known. __________________ Avatar is the butt stock WaA stemple on a new condition Mauser Oberndorf Portuguese contract M1937A rifle.

03-27-2013, 03:26 PM	#2
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mrerick Super Moderator - Patron LugerForum Life Patron Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Eastern North Carolina, USA Posts: 3,920 Thanks: 1,377 Thanked 3,135 Times in 1,518 Posts	Here's the correct link: http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/...st-gun-owners/ __________________ Igitur si vis pacem, para bellum - - Therefore if you want peace, prepare for war.

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mrerick Super Moderator - Patron LugerForum Life Patron Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Eastern North Carolina, USA Posts: 3,920 Thanks: 1,377 Thanked 3,135 Times in 1,518 Posts	I wonder if it's not considered a legitimate "War Prize" because Poland was on our side? Marc __________________ Igitur si vis pacem, para bellum - - Therefore if you want peace, prepare for war.

03-27-2013, 03:27 PM	#3
alvin User Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: US Posts: 3,843 Thanks: 132 Thanked 729 Times in 438 Posts	>> "The return of this one was specifically requested by the Polish government." He's listing it at a price, why didn't Polish government simply buy it back ?

03-28-2013, 10:22 AM	#9
lew1 Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Kentucky Posts: 1,108 Thanks: 82 Thanked 204 Times in 112 Posts	Wait until they come for the lugers and other weapons. Especially those taken from the displays at the Mauser factory. __________________ charlie

03-28-2013, 10:56 AM	#10
nukem556 User Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: Irmo, SC Posts: 625 Thanks: 35 Thanked 168 Times in 107 Posts	By what stretch of the imagination does this matter fall under the purview of the DHS??? None of their business. This, and not the Twin Towers, has been the jihadists greatest victory against freedom.....they've given our government the excuse to march towards totalitarianism...the DHS is the new Gestapo. Last edited by nukem556; 03-28-2013 at 11:51 AM.

03-28-2013, 04:03 PM	#12
alvin User Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: US Posts: 3,843 Thanks: 132 Thanked 729 Times in 438 Posts	We should feel lucky. It's good to know that Polish government is interested in Polish guns only. They won't come to confiscate German guns.

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03-29-2013, 05:53 AM	#15
alvin User Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: US Posts: 3,843 Thanks: 132 Thanked 729 Times in 438 Posts	Ron, I agree with you. This world is out of order.