Magazine Issue?

PEB · 03-16-2013, 02:06 PM

I have an all matching 1936 S/42 and the toggle will not go into the fully locked position. The magazine does not stay all the way in the gun when inserted ( see pics ) it springs down slightly. I have tried the numbered mag to the gun as well as a Mecgar one. If I push on the bottom the mag while pulling the toggle back it will lock but releases as soon as I remove the pressure from the bottom of the magazine. Anyone have any idea what can be causing this?

Any help is greatly appreciated!!!

alanint · 03-16-2013, 03:09 PM

My first guess would be a worn magazine release. The toggle issue may be remedied by a complete cleaning.

lugerholsterrepair · 03-16-2013, 04:06 PM

Perhaps a holdopen spring .. it might just be bent out of adjustment? If it were bent down and too strong it could push down on the mag button enough to overcome the mag spring.

PEB · 03-16-2013, 04:39 PM

Just gave her a good cleaning and looked at the hold open spring as well. Everything seems to be working fine but mags still stick out of the bottom slightly and toggle won't go all the way into locked position.

lugerholsterrepair · 03-16-2013, 05:24 PM

mags still stick out of the bottom slightly..This more common than not on Lugers and is not a real indicator of anything IMO.

Have you looked at the underside of the bolt? At the bolt stop slot? This should be sharp and in good condition. Remember the bolt will stay back only if both the holdopen and this slot mate up well..

Have you shot the pistol and it will not stay open? Or are you just operating it by hand?

Did you actually take out the holdopen and spring? Or just inspect it in place?

PEB · 03-16-2013, 06:09 PM

Just operated by hand. I did not remove the spring, just inspected in place. I was afraid I would be opening a big can of worms!

lugerholsterrepair · 03-16-2013, 07:26 PM

Then you may not have the problem you think you have. See if it happens when actually firing the pistol.

03-16-2013, 02:06 PM	#1
PEB Patron LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Michigan Posts: 78 Thanks: 2 Thanked 5 Times in 4 Posts	Magazine Issue? I have an all matching 1936 S/42 and the toggle will not go into the fully locked position. The magazine does not stay all the way in the gun when inserted ( see pics ) it springs down slightly. I have tried the numbered mag to the gun as well as a Mecgar one. If I push on the bottom the mag while pulling the toggle back it will lock but releases as soon as I remove the pressure from the bottom of the magazine. Anyone have any idea what can be causing this? Any help is greatly appreciated!!! Attached Thumbnails

03-16-2013, 04:06 PM	#3
lugerholsterrepair Moderator Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Arizona/Colorado Posts: 7,761 Thanks: 4,863 Thanked 3,101 Times in 1,427 Posts	Perhaps a holdopen spring .. it might just be bent out of adjustment? If it were bent down and too strong it could push down on the mag button enough to overcome the mag spring. __________________ Jerry Burney 11491 S. Guadalupe Drive Yuma AZ 85367-6182 lugerholsterrepair@earthlink.net 928 342-7583 (CO & AZ) Year Round 719 207-3331 (cell) "For those who Fight For It, Life has a flavor the protected will never know."

03-16-2013, 05:24 PM	#5
lugerholsterrepair Moderator Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Arizona/Colorado Posts: 7,761 Thanks: 4,863 Thanked 3,101 Times in 1,427 Posts	mags still stick out of the bottom slightly..This more common than not on Lugers and is not a real indicator of anything IMO. Have you looked at the underside of the bolt? At the bolt stop slot? This should be sharp and in good condition. Remember the bolt will stay back only if both the holdopen and this slot mate up well.. Have you shot the pistol and it will not stay open? Or are you just operating it by hand? Did you actually take out the holdopen and spring? Or just inspect it in place? __________________ Jerry Burney 11491 S. Guadalupe Drive Yuma AZ 85367-6182 lugerholsterrepair@earthlink.net 928 342-7583 (CO & AZ) Year Round 719 207-3331 (cell) "For those who Fight For It, Life has a flavor the protected will never know."

03-16-2013, 07:26 PM	#7
lugerholsterrepair Moderator Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Arizona/Colorado Posts: 7,761 Thanks: 4,863 Thanked 3,101 Times in 1,427 Posts	Then you may not have the problem you think you have. See if it happens when actually firing the pistol. __________________ Jerry Burney 11491 S. Guadalupe Drive Yuma AZ 85367-6182 lugerholsterrepair@earthlink.net 928 342-7583 (CO & AZ) Year Round 719 207-3331 (cell) "For those who Fight For It, Life has a flavor the protected will never know."

03-16-2013, 03:09 PM	#2
alanint User Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Marco Island, Florida Posts: 4,867 Thanks: 1,685 Thanked 1,916 Times in 1,192 Posts	My first guess would be a worn magazine release. The toggle issue may be remedied by a complete cleaning.

03-16-2013, 04:39 PM	#4
PEB Patron LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Michigan Posts: 78 Thanks: 2 Thanked 5 Times in 4 Posts	Just gave her a good cleaning and looked at the hold open spring as well. Everything seems to be working fine but mags still stick out of the bottom slightly and toggle won't go all the way into locked position.

03-16-2013, 06:09 PM	#6
PEB Patron LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Michigan Posts: 78 Thanks: 2 Thanked 5 Times in 4 Posts	Just operated by hand. I did not remove the spring, just inspected in place. I was afraid I would be opening a big can of worms!