Luger and Browning surprise...saved again - Page 3

lew1 · 03-12-2013, 02:18 PM

Here is the picture of the marking on the Hi Power along with the picture of the marking on the bayonet and on two different variations of the holsters for those pistols.

The second last photo is the marking on my Hi Power. The last photo is the marking on a Hi Power which is two serial numbers off of my serial number. The other Hi Power is in a collection in Germany. There is another one in a collection in the US.

Things are sad. At the SOS this year I had brought along 7 Hi Powers for show and tell at the P38 meeting. This one was in the seven. The other 6 were not too common, eg. 1943 Swiss prototype, 1930 Test trial - with a barrel busing, Serial No. 2 - Oval port, serial nos. 1 and 5 - standard ejection port, and serial no 2 - of the pistol for the 1933 French test trials. All 7 were unusual and I go on the theory that knowledge is power. However, the new moderator of the P38 forum told me that the meeting was only for p38s, PPKs, and PPs. (I do collect PPKs.) . So when the meeting was concluded, I took my Hi Powers and left.

Frank B · 03-12-2013, 08:17 PM

Great to know

kubel · 03-12-2013, 11:26 PM

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Originally Posted by lugerholsterrepair

It stands to reason ANY small auto pistol was common issue in the Luftwaffe. But does anyone know if there is a way to detect if one issued to the Luftwaffe was marked in any way?

Not to my knowledge. Although I've seen rigs with Luftwaffe marked holsters which are supposedly original to the pistol, I've never seen a FN 1922 with a definitive Luftwaffe acceptance stamp.

As side note, some FN 1922 pistols have a mystery "(H)" stamped on the slide which some people presume stands for "Heer" but this has never been confirmed.

Frank B · 03-13-2013, 05:37 AM

I cant be sure 100% if this is original to gun, but I am pretty confident that they are. Being how they were stored and from my friends family vet father's bag...before and after pics. A surprise in a bag...lol. It would be great to know if it was a LW gun( I can assume from the holster)) but with out his(vet) accounts one doesnt know for sure. This could be a cache he took from same group of Germans, and would be nice if both are LW...but then again...who knows.

alanint · 03-13-2013, 06:02 AM

I'm still harping back to what I think is clearly a Krieghoff stamp on one holster. It clearly shows the dagger part of the Krieghoff anchor. (The Kreighoff logo is a combined dagger and anchor), flanked by the H and K.

Has anybody else ever seen this stamp on a holster?

Frank B · 03-13-2013, 06:12 AM

Some one else pointed me to this website...http://www.tague.at/pistolen/en_inde....htm...alanint, what do think is the significant? I saw your earlier posts?

Frank B · 03-13-2013, 06:14 AM

Opps it added extra letters

Try this

http://www.tague.at/pistolen/en_inde.../en_fn1922.htm

kubel · 03-13-2013, 10:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by alanint

Has anybody else ever seen this stamp on a holster?

This stamp (commonly believed as Krieghoff) appears on many holsters. Here are a few...

Gebirg · 09-14-2013, 04:02 PM

The holster for the Browning is typical/clearly a Standartenfürer Arved Theuermann design luftwaffe holster - i just dig those ones...

03-12-2013, 02:18 PM	#41
lew1 Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Kentucky Posts: 1,108 Thanks: 82 Thanked 204 Times in 112 Posts	Here is the picture of the marking on the Hi Power along with the picture of the marking on the bayonet and on two different variations of the holsters for those pistols. The second last photo is the marking on my Hi Power. The last photo is the marking on a Hi Power which is two serial numbers off of my serial number. The other Hi Power is in a collection in Germany. There is another one in a collection in the US. Things are sad. At the SOS this year I had brought along 7 Hi Powers for show and tell at the P38 meeting. This one was in the seven. The other 6 were not too common, eg. 1943 Swiss prototype, 1930 Test trial - with a barrel busing, Serial No. 2 - Oval port, serial nos. 1 and 5 - standard ejection port, and serial no 2 - of the pistol for the 1933 French test trials. All 7 were unusual and I go on the theory that knowledge is power. However, the new moderator of the P38 forum told me that the meeting was only for p38s, PPKs, and PPs. (I do collect PPKs.) . So when the meeting was concluded, I took my Hi Powers and left. Attached Thumbnails Attached Images __________________ charlie

03-13-2013, 06:12 AM	#46
Frank B User Join Date: Mar 2013 Location: Augusta GA, aus Berlin...:) Posts: 78 Thanks: 20 Thanked 30 Times in 12 Posts	Some one else pointed me to this website...http://www.tague.at/pistolen/en_inde....htm...alanint, what do think is the significant? I saw your earlier posts? __________________ "Man muss manchmal in den sauren Apfel beißen"

03-13-2013, 06:14 AM	#47
Frank B User Join Date: Mar 2013 Location: Augusta GA, aus Berlin...:) Posts: 78 Thanks: 20 Thanked 30 Times in 12 Posts	Opps it added extra letters Try this http://www.tague.at/pistolen/en_inde.../en_fn1922.htm __________________ "Man muss manchmal in den sauren Apfel beißen"

09-14-2013, 04:02 PM	#49
Gebirg User Join Date: Oct 2012 Location: Telemark Posts: 94 Thanks: 68 Thanked 158 Times in 34 Posts	The holster for the Browning is typical/clearly a Standartenfürer Arved Theuermann design luftwaffe holster - i just dig those ones... __________________ Mr. AKB - Norway "SILENT LEGES INTER ARMA" Denn unter den Waffen schweigen die Gesetze (M.T.Cicero)

03-12-2013, 08:17 PM	#42
Frank B User Join Date: Mar 2013 Location: Augusta GA, aus Berlin...:) Posts: 78 Thanks: 20 Thanked 30 Times in 12 Posts	Great to know

03-13-2013, 05:37 AM	#44
Frank B User Join Date: Mar 2013 Location: Augusta GA, aus Berlin...:) Posts: 78 Thanks: 20 Thanked 30 Times in 12 Posts	I cant be sure 100% if this is original to gun, but I am pretty confident that they are. Being how they were stored and from my friends family vet father's bag...before and after pics. A surprise in a bag...lol. It would be great to know if it was a LW gun( I can assume from the holster)) but with out his(vet) accounts one doesnt know for sure. This could be a cache he took from same group of Germans, and would be nice if both are LW...but then again...who knows.

03-13-2013, 06:02 AM	#45
alanint User Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Marco Island, Florida Posts: 4,867 Thanks: 1,685 Thanked 1,917 Times in 1,193 Posts	I'm still harping back to what I think is clearly a Krieghoff stamp on one holster. It clearly shows the dagger part of the Krieghoff anchor. (The Kreighoff logo is a combined dagger and anchor), flanked by the H and K. Has anybody else ever seen this stamp on a holster?