Need info on two no-proof lugers

[new2lugers]

Sorry for the lack of updates, it's especially busy this week...
Also, my newness to firearms will show in this post, forgive me in advance...

Originally Posted by guns3545

Well.

I'll take a stab at this as one of my uncles was in Suhl for a short while and has a Krieghoff parts gun as distinguished from one of the PX variations.

And that's what I think these two guns are for a few reasons not the least of which it appears Frank Stall was in Germany in 1945 and the acceptance marks are Krieghoff and because there were a lot of Krieghoff unemployed gunsmiths and assemblers out of work in 1945 and used the parts in the liberated factory to build guns for the GIs and later on a more formal basis for the PX.

The personalized side frame inscription is neat as is the workmanship on the grip panels. And GIs liked plated guns. You see a lot of them around.

The 21 on the toggle link has no particular meaning other than it is there. The acceptance proofs are fairly definitive but inspection of the interior parts should reveal a lot more.

Hope this helps. I'm sure others will chime in. Now, of course, these could be a total fabrication; but parts and PX guns do not go for a lot of money and so I am betting that these are not fakes. But closer inspection could reveal more.

Hope this helps,

John

Thanks John. This helps greatly! What does PX mean/stand for?
The fact that these were pieced together using left over parts after the war makes more sense on the nickel-colored one.

There simply isn't any part match stamps on nickel luger other than the two proofs I found.

See the picture for black luger proof I found on the (what I believe to be called) the extractor.

The other picture shows another proof I found on the nickel luger. Hopefully this brings about more info.

How would you, in your opinion, label these pistols for future identification? eg. 1920 commercial Krieghoff or...something else?

Being that they may be Luger PX pistols, what would be a rough estimate as to a price? I have no intention of selling them but it's interested me knowing that they were built for GIs for aftermarket...

Thank you very much again!

Originally Posted by cdmech

Those grips are beautiful! They look allot like my Black Forest Cuckoo Clock!
Marc

Thanks!

Originally Posted by lugersrkewl

what do the extractors on both pistols have when lifted up on the left side?

I hope the picture shows you what you asked. Only one had proofs on what I believe is called the extractor