Sad day in New York! and......

G.T. · 01-15-2013, 06:45 PM

Going to be sadder for California... really bad politics passing a new assault weapons ban... California is proposing insane restrictions... WoW, never thought I'd see this... Bad weather ahead boys! ...

......Get ready..... best to all, til....lat'r....GT

BTW, If it wasn't so sad it'd be funny...but, China is wearing out Chinese to become what we are, and, we're busting our ass to become what China once was?? ..... Takes some pretty slick politicians to get that done!!.... best to all, til...lat'r...GT

mrerick · 01-15-2013, 08:03 PM

Also, watch for high speed capacity (over 50mph) cars to come into their cross hairs...

Sounds like 2nd Amendment infringement to me...

Marc

Gary H · 01-15-2013, 08:29 PM

It's stunning and crazy. Am I to understand correctly that this law would effectively ban the venerable M1 Garand?!? I just reread the Heller decision and I'm not sure that would withstand constitutional scrutiny. We aren't talking about banning machine guns or sawed-off shotguns, but weapons and magazines that are commonly possessed.

Steve Lempitski · 01-15-2013, 08:33 PM

Gonna be interesting - my parents drive out to AZ every winter, and take my .22 semiauto with them. As they travel through NY, and the pistol has 2 9 round mags with it, I guess they are now felons....

NoncomRetired · 01-15-2013, 09:01 PM

Hard for me to believe that another state is now worse than Illinois when it comes to gun rights.

mrerick · 01-15-2013, 09:11 PM

The NY law text is located at:

http://open.nysenate.gov/legislation/bill/S2230-2013

The wording is complex, but it seems to exclude curio and relic firearms (but not more modern replicas). Same thing for "large capacity ammunition feeding devices". I think it says you can own a M1 if it's registered.

I think it gives you a pass on owning an Enblock clip more than 50 years old, but would have to be registered.

That truly is crazy...

Marc

Steve Lempitski · 01-15-2013, 09:18 PM

"worse than Illinois"

Ever hear of Massachusetts? Since 1998 the MA Attorney General has been a handgun designer, where do you think the mag disconnects, loaded chamber indicators, and key locks on guns came from? For a handgun to be sold in this state it has to be on BOTH the Attorney Generals approved handgun list AND the Executrive Office of Public Safety approved handgun list. Browning cannot sell any handgun in the state, and of all the .22 semiauto models that Ruger makes only the SR22 can be sold here!

tudorbug · 01-15-2013, 09:20 PM

How did this happen in a state with a Republican controlled Senate??

David

Steve Lempitski · 01-15-2013, 09:24 PM

NY has a R.I.N.O. controlled Senate....Isnt Governor Christie in New Jersey a "Republican" as well???

NoncomRetired · 01-15-2013, 09:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Steve Lempitski

"worse than Illinois"

Ever hear of Massachusetts? Since 1998 the MA Attorney General has been a handgun designer, where do you think the mag disconnects, loaded chamber indicators, and key locks on guns came from? For a handgun to be sold in this state it has to be on BOTH the Attorney Generals approved handgun list AND the Executrive Office of Public Safety approved handgun list. Browning cannot sell any handgun in the state, and of all the .22 semiauto models that Ruger makes only the SR22 can be sold here!

I've never heard of Massachusetts, I've heard of Taxachusetts, same place?

Steve Lempitski · 01-15-2013, 09:28 PM

The "Communistwealth of Masshysteria" as we the right leaning minority call it...

tomaustin · 01-15-2013, 09:28 PM

all the same issues existed and they didn't deem them worthy of all this action........

NoncomRetired · 01-15-2013, 09:34 PM

Just why is it that Left Wing states make life like crap for their voters and why do they continue to be relelected? Don't Democrats know better?

Quote:

Originally Posted by Steve Lempitski

The "Communistwealth of Masshysteria" as we the right leaning minority call it...

Steve Lempitski · 01-15-2013, 10:12 PM

Be interesting to see what NRA does if anything....When MA AG 1998 Handgun act went into effect neither NRA or MA GOAL did a thing....

Shadowsix · 01-15-2013, 11:56 PM

Is New York serious?!! I hope the article I'm reading is wrong but it states something about background checks for buying ammunition!!!!!

Will there be a waiting period instituted for buying ammo too?!!!

What does that mean for those who reload for themselves, will they be outlawed?!!!

This is just insane!!

mrerick · 01-16-2013, 12:02 AM

Rich, The M1 is also C&R, and allowed under NY's new law...

G.T. · 01-16-2013, 12:34 AM

Hey guys, the assault guns are the small fry this time... they pale in comparison to the registration provisions of any anti gun law... That's their big score in this deal... next, their going to cut each one out like a brainless sheep, and tell YOU, if your sane enough or not, to own a gun....If they know where the guns are, and know where you are... then the rest is pretty easy to see.... Like I said, stormy weather ahead.. I'm really glad I live in AZ about now... hope it changes for those in the United States of California and New York....best to all, til...lat'r....GT

suum cuique · 01-16-2013, 02:10 AM

As everywhere in the free world: You get what you've voted for.

Steve Lempitski · 01-16-2013, 08:59 AM

Background check for ammo will probably just like MA where a pistol permit or FID card has to be shown to buy ammo...not a big deal actually.

01-15-2013, 06:45 PM	#1
G.T. Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Chandler Arizona Posts: 3,486 Thanks: 1,284 Thanked 3,583 Times in 989 Posts	Sad day in New York! and...... Going to be sadder for California... really bad politics passing a new assault weapons ban... California is proposing insane restrictions... WoW, never thought I'd see this... Bad weather ahead boys! .........Get ready..... best to all, til....lat'r....GT BTW, If it wasn't so sad it'd be funny...but, China is wearing out Chinese to become what we are, and, we're busting our ass to become what China once was?? ..... Takes some pretty slick politicians to get that done!!.... best to all, til...lat'r...GT

01-15-2013, 08:03 PM	#2
mrerick Super Moderator - Patron LugerForum Life Patron Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Eastern North Carolina, USA Posts: 3,901 Thanks: 1,374 Thanked 3,094 Times in 1,503 Posts	Also, watch for high speed capacity (over 50mph) cars to come into their cross hairs... Sounds like 2nd Amendment infringement to me... Marc __________________ Igitur si vis pacem, para bellum - - Therefore if you want peace, prepare for war.

01-15-2013, 08:33 PM	#4
Steve Lempitski User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Old Cape Cod Posts: 238 Thanks: 1 Thanked 7 Times in 7 Posts	Gonna be interesting - my parents drive out to AZ every winter, and take my .22 semiauto with them. As they travel through NY, and the pistol has 2 9 round mags with it, I guess they are now felons.... __________________ SJL

01-15-2013, 09:11 PM	#6
mrerick Super Moderator - Patron LugerForum Life Patron Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Eastern North Carolina, USA Posts: 3,901 Thanks: 1,374 Thanked 3,094 Times in 1,503 Posts	The NY law text is located at: http://open.nysenate.gov/legislation/bill/S2230-2013 The wording is complex, but it seems to exclude curio and relic firearms (but not more modern replicas). Same thing for "large capacity ammunition feeding devices". I think it says you can own a M1 if it's registered. I think it gives you a pass on owning an Enblock clip more than 50 years old, but would have to be registered. That truly is crazy... Marc __________________ Igitur si vis pacem, para bellum - - Therefore if you want peace, prepare for war.

01-15-2013, 09:18 PM	#7
Steve Lempitski User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Old Cape Cod Posts: 238 Thanks: 1 Thanked 7 Times in 7 Posts	"worse than Illinois" Ever hear of Massachusetts? Since 1998 the MA Attorney General has been a handgun designer, where do you think the mag disconnects, loaded chamber indicators, and key locks on guns came from? For a handgun to be sold in this state it has to be on BOTH the Attorney Generals approved handgun list AND the Executrive Office of Public Safety approved handgun list. Browning cannot sell any handgun in the state, and of all the .22 semiauto models that Ruger makes only the SR22 can be sold here! __________________ SJL

01-15-2013, 08:29 PM	#3
Gary H User Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Washington State Posts: 31 Thanks: 22 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post	It's stunning and crazy. Am I to understand correctly that this law would effectively ban the venerable M1 Garand?!? I just reread the Heller decision and I'm not sure that would withstand constitutional scrutiny. We aren't talking about banning machine guns or sawed-off shotguns, but weapons and magazines that are commonly possessed.

01-15-2013, 09:01 PM	#5
NoncomRetired Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Dec 2012 Posts: 719 Thanks: 144 Thanked 306 Times in 146 Posts	Hard for me to believe that another state is now worse than Illinois when it comes to gun rights.

01-15-2013, 09:20 PM	#8
tudorbug Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Georgia Posts: 387 Thanks: 0 Thanked 40 Times in 29 Posts	How did this happen in a state with a Republican controlled Senate?? David

01-15-2013, 09:24 PM	#9
Steve Lempitski User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Old Cape Cod Posts: 238 Thanks: 1 Thanked 7 Times in 7 Posts	NY has a R.I.N.O. controlled Senate....Isnt Governor Christie in New Jersey a "Republican" as well??? __________________ SJL

01-15-2013, 09:28 PM	#11
Steve Lempitski User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Old Cape Cod Posts: 238 Thanks: 1 Thanked 7 Times in 7 Posts	The "Communistwealth of Masshysteria" as we the right leaning minority call it... __________________ SJL

01-15-2013, 09:28 PM	#12
tomaustin Lifer X5 Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: texas Posts: 708 Thanks: 87 Thanked 522 Times in 201 Posts	the really sad thing about all this is the day before sandy hook, all the same issues existed and they didn't deem them worthy of all this action........

01-15-2013, 10:12 PM	#14
Steve Lempitski User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Old Cape Cod Posts: 238 Thanks: 1 Thanked 7 Times in 7 Posts	Be interesting to see what NRA does if anything....When MA AG 1998 Handgun act went into effect neither NRA or MA GOAL did a thing.... __________________ SJL

01-15-2013, 11:56 PM	#15
Shadowsix User Join Date: Apr 2012 Posts: 106 Thanks: 56 Thanked 26 Times in 18 Posts	Is New York serious?!! I hope the article I'm reading is wrong but it states something about background checks for buying ammunition!!!!! Will there be a waiting period instituted for buying ammo too?!!! What does that mean for those who reload for themselves, will they be outlawed?!!! This is just insane!!

01-16-2013, 12:02 AM	#16
mrerick Super Moderator - Patron LugerForum Life Patron Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Eastern North Carolina, USA Posts: 3,901 Thanks: 1,374 Thanked 3,094 Times in 1,503 Posts	En Bloc Safety... Rich, The M1 is also C&R, and allowed under NY's new law... Attached Thumbnails __________________ Igitur si vis pacem, para bellum - - Therefore if you want peace, prepare for war.

01-16-2013, 12:34 AM	#17
G.T. Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Chandler Arizona Posts: 3,486 Thanks: 1,284 Thanked 3,583 Times in 989 Posts	Worst part!!! Hey guys, the assault guns are the small fry this time... they pale in comparison to the registration provisions of any anti gun law... That's their big score in this deal... next, their going to cut each one out like a brainless sheep, and tell YOU, if your sane enough or not, to own a gun....If they know where the guns are, and know where you are... then the rest is pretty easy to see.... Like I said, stormy weather ahead.. I'm really glad I live in AZ about now... hope it changes for those in the United States of California and New York....best to all, til...lat'r....GT

01-16-2013, 02:10 AM	#18
suum cuique User Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: MD / Currently about 9000 klicks east of the Potomac Posts: 497 Thanks: 100 Thanked 47 Times in 35 Posts	7 round max capacity As everywhere in the free world: You get what you've voted for. __________________ Regards, Andy There's No Place Like Home (Wizard Of Oz)

01-16-2013, 08:59 AM	#19
Steve Lempitski User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Old Cape Cod Posts: 238 Thanks: 1 Thanked 7 Times in 7 Posts	Background check for ammo will probably just like MA where a pistol permit or FID card has to be shown to buy ammo...not a big deal actually. __________________ SJL