New Luger 1939- S/42 w/sear safety

[Edward Tinker]

Bob, he should buy Police Lugers by Dwight Gruber and Edward Tinker, then he could point to it

[sheepherder]

Originally Posted by whcoyote

Postino:
Not all Lugers with sight clearance notches in the receiver top were "Artillerys" (LP.08). All late war Erfurts had this notch and none of them were LP.08s.
Bob

Correct. That is why my post says "can include re-barreled artillery models (characterized by the sight clearance notch"...

Originally Posted by Edward Tinker

Bob, he should buy Police Lugers by Dwight Gruber and Edward Tinker, then he could point to it

I'm saving my money for the latest (and best) edition; hopefully being released soon...

[nukem556]

Well, cool...who would have thought there were so many Floydians on the Luger Forum?

[ithacaartist]

Originally Posted by nukem556

Well, cool...who would have thought there were so many Floydians on the Luger Forum?

in the same spirit.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CA5POB9bqSQ

...a sight clearance notch in the receiver characterizes an artillery model...

Guys, here's a way to look at it: Though Artillery Lugers absolutely needed the top fronts of the barrel extensions relieved to allow the tangent sight mounted on the barrel to fully function, is it not true that after a certain date (1914 comes to mind, for no coherent reason.) all P.08 barrel extensions (military, at least) had the same relief, regardless of ultimate configuration? I remember reading a possible explanation, that to do them all actually was more efficient than keeping them sorted out.

So, wouldn't one resort to the serial number of a P.08 converted from an LP.08 to have any clue to discovering this conversion? I'm thinking other clues would be marks documenting the conversion, characteristics of the replacement (or not) barrel, and maybe the rear toggle link, which would be swapped in--to provide a rear sight to replace the tangent sight on the former long barrel.

So, does the notch on my 1917/1920 DWM military mean it was originally an Artie, or was it made since the cut bacame typical? I know this started out being about a police Luger, but now I'm wondering.

[sheepherder]

Originally Posted by ithacaartist

So, does the notch on my 1917/1920 DWM military mean it was originally an Artie, or was it made since the cut bacame typical? I know this started out being about a police Luger, but now I'm wondering.

If whcoyote is correct (and why not?), then only Erfurts had the notch without actually being artilleries. Your DWM would have been an artillery originally. DWM would have added the extra machining step for arties; Erfurt decided to make them all with the notch (until artilleries were discontinued - in 1914 you say?).

Makes sense. Or as much sense as anything in the Luger world.

Let's keep going. Discussion poses more questions; which prompts more answers.

[whcoyote]

Originally Posted by postino

Correct. That is why my post says "can include re-barreled artillery models (characterized by the sight clearance notch"...



I'm saving my money for the latest (and best) edition; hopefully being released soon...

That's not exactly what you said. Read your whole statement in-context. You say, "Military Lugers converted to police use can include re-barreled artillery models (characterized by the sight clearance notch in the receiver). You are correct in saying that police reworks can include Artillery models. Then you continue to say "artillery models (characterized by the sight clearance notch in the receiver) - which implies that a sight clearance notch in the receiver characterizes an artillery model. This is not so. Erfurt P.08s had this clearance notch also.
I stand by my post!
Bob