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mrerick · 06-07-2012, 02:51 PM

If you look into the ATF regulations associated with a C&R license, you'll find a requirement to comply with all state and local laws.

Thus, even with a C&R License, if your state requires a FOID to own a pistol, you must have one to purchase a pistol.

In North Carolina, we must either get individual authorization permits from the local sheriff to buy handguns, or must have a NC Concealed Carry Handgun permit.

In Illinois, you must have a FOID to purchase a handgun. If you live in a state with such laws, and you don't have the state or local permit, it could be grounds for ATF to reject your application. That might be the basis for asking about it on the ATF application.

Marc

CAP Black · 06-07-2012, 04:15 PM

What the heck is a FOID?

ski · 06-07-2012, 07:51 PM

My C&R license took only a few weeks to get it. Best thing I ever did. Has saved me alot of $$$.

Arizona Slim · 06-07-2012, 09:02 PM

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What the heck is a FOID?

A FOID is a "Firearm Owners Identification card", all gun owners in IL must have one, for aLL types of firearms.

cirelaw · 06-07-2012, 09:13 PM

I am in florida. Do you still requira a seperate carriers' permit to buy at a gun at our shows? Is there a seperate for autos?

saab-bob · 06-07-2012, 09:25 PM

For those wondering about the FOID
Here is a article that came out 05/04/12.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/0...n_1477265.html

Bob

sheepherder · 06-08-2012, 06:58 AM

It's my understanding (and GB auctions seem to bear this out) that New York State does not honor C&R licenses...

cirelaw · 06-08-2012, 09:07 AM

That explains why the New Yorkers escape here to Florida!!

cirelaw · 06-08-2012, 09:14 AM

Thats why all the tourist come on down!

siegersallee · 06-08-2012, 05:13 PM

I am not totally sure but I believe that the question you are referring to is applicable only if you are NOT a US citizen; but, you really need to read all the questions in the sections leading to any section carefully. Parts of the application do not apply to all applicants.

REPEAT: You should read the questions VERY, VERY carefully; they can be misleading.

Also, read the instructions at the bottom of the entire form; if you are still unsure of a question use these links to call for help:
Here is a link to a BATF directory in WV: BATF Directory

This is also a useful link: BATF Useful link

And, as a bonus, here is a link to a sample form that helps clarify the application: Sample Application Filled Out.

I did not answer one of the questions correctly. I misinterpreted it. It has taken a month for them to let me know this and that was only after I called them repeatedly for two days.

The BATF has 60 days to adjudicate an application; however, I am not sure when the clock is started. I think it is started from the point at which they have a complete application.

Review your application VERY carefully before sending it.

Learn from my mistake.

I hope you find this post helpful...

Richard

Oh, BTW, the C & R application is only a Federal requirement. You must also comply with any state requirements as well; with luck, you may live in a state that has no requirements beyond the Federal ones.

aptech77 · 06-26-2012, 07:09 PM

Any update? Mine was processed last week, now we wait.....

siegersallee · 07-02-2012, 04:01 PM

Hi all,

Well, after the initial hurdles, all is well.

In fact, I must give credit where it is due.
When the omission was corrected, the application was entered into the system on 9 June and approved on 27 June and I received it on 2 July!

Actually, that is not bad.

So I am legal!

Richard

ithacaartist · 07-02-2012, 05:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by postino

It's my understanding (and GB auctions seem to bear this out) that New York State does not honor C&R licenses...

According to the chat I had with my transfer dealer in Interlaken a couple of weeks ago, you are correct! The C&R is effectively only good in NYS for obtaining the discounts from suppliers. FFL is required for any pistol transfer, even receiving a pistol from the seller requires the seller to use FFL to send. This kinda doubles the transfer fee if you're buying one on G.B. from an individual and not an FFL dealer.

Long guns do not require any paperwork unless you're buying from a dealer, who will do the background check. Private, undocumented sale of rifles and shotguns is OK.

Guess it was a choice between states' rights and ours, and we lost. Most other states don't make it so tough, except maybe Mass. and Kalif.

David Parker

alvin · 07-02-2012, 05:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ithacaartist

except maybe Mass. and Kalif.

With C&R license, C&R guns are OK in Mass. But they successfully turned gun right off, and replaced that with a plastic "Permit" card. Modern rifle fans suffer in Mass. though, the 1994 "AWB" does not sunset in this state.

California situation is worse.

06-07-2012, 02:51 PM	#21
mrerick Super Moderator - Patron LugerForum Life Patron Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Eastern North Carolina, USA Posts: 3,907 Thanks: 1,374 Thanked 3,108 Times in 1,509 Posts	If you look into the ATF regulations associated with a C&R license, you'll find a requirement to comply with all state and local laws. Thus, even with a C&R License, if your state requires a FOID to own a pistol, you must have one to purchase a pistol. In North Carolina, we must either get individual authorization permits from the local sheriff to buy handguns, or must have a NC Concealed Carry Handgun permit. In Illinois, you must have a FOID to purchase a handgun. If you live in a state with such laws, and you don't have the state or local permit, it could be grounds for ATF to reject your application. That might be the basis for asking about it on the ATF application. Marc __________________ Igitur si vis pacem, para bellum - - Therefore if you want peace, prepare for war.

06-07-2012, 09:25 PM	#26
saab-bob User Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: So Cal Posts: 459 Thanks: 774 Thanked 143 Times in 87 Posts	For those wondering about the FOID Here is a article that came out 05/04/12. http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/0...n_1477265.html Bob __________________ "I think,therefore I own guns"

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sheepherder Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: ...on the 'ol Erie Canal... Posts: 8,182 Thanks: 1,400 Thanked 4,442 Times in 2,330 Posts	It's my understanding (and GB auctions seem to bear this out) that New York State does not honor C&R licenses... __________________ I like my coffee the way I like my women... ...Cold and bitter...

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siegersallee User Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: Atlanta, GA Posts: 292 Thanks: 107 Thanked 57 Times in 34 Posts	BATF information I am not totally sure but I believe that the question you are referring to is applicable only if you are NOT a US citizen; but, you really need to read all the questions in the sections leading to any section carefully. Parts of the application do not apply to all applicants. REPEAT: You should read the questions VERY, VERY carefully; they can be misleading. Also, read the instructions at the bottom of the entire form; if you are still unsure of a question use these links to call for help: Here is a link to a BATF directory in WV: BATF Directory This is also a useful link: BATF Useful link And, as a bonus, here is a link to a sample form that helps clarify the application: Sample Application Filled Out. I did not answer one of the questions correctly. I misinterpreted it. It has taken a month for them to let me know this and that was only after I called them repeatedly for two days. The BATF has 60 days to adjudicate an application; however, I am not sure when the clock is started. I think it is started from the point at which they have a complete application. Review your application VERY carefully before sending it. Learn from my mistake. I hope you find this post helpful... Richard Oh, BTW, the C & R application is only a Federal requirement. You must also comply with any state requirements as well; with luck, you may live in a state that has no requirements beyond the Federal ones. Last edited by siegersallee; 06-09-2012 at 05:21 PM.

06-07-2012, 04:15 PM	#22
CAP Black User Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Fairmont, WV Right here in Mountaineer country and God's country Posts: 767 Thanks: 100 Thanked 168 Times in 96 Posts	What the heck is a FOID?

06-07-2012, 07:51 PM	#23
ski New User Join Date: May 2010 Location: Florida Posts: 4 Thanks: 1 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	My C&R license took only a few weeks to get it. Best thing I ever did. Has saved me alot of $$$.

06-07-2012, 09:02 PM	#24
Arizona Slim Patron LugerForum Patron Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Illinois Posts: 706 Thanks: 1,026 Thanked 409 Times in 225 Posts	-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- What the heck is a FOID? A FOID is a "Firearm Owners Identification card", all gun owners in IL must have one, for aLL types of firearms.

06-07-2012, 09:13 PM	#25
cirelaw Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: PORT ST LUCIE, FLORIDA Posts: 12,216 Thanks: 6,209 Thanked 4,133 Times in 2,173 Posts	I am in florida. Do you still requira a seperate carriers' permit to buy at a gun at our shows? Is there a seperate for autos?

06-08-2012, 09:07 AM	#28
cirelaw Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: PORT ST LUCIE, FLORIDA Posts: 12,216 Thanks: 6,209 Thanked 4,133 Times in 2,173 Posts	That explains why the New Yorkers escape here to Florida!!

06-26-2012, 07:09 PM	#31
aptech77 User Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Illinois Posts: 85 Thanks: 10 Thanked 7 Times in 6 Posts	Any update? Mine was processed last week, now we wait.....

07-02-2012, 04:01 PM	#32
siegersallee User Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: Atlanta, GA Posts: 292 Thanks: 107 Thanked 57 Times in 34 Posts	C & R arrived!!! Hi all, Well, after the initial hurdles, all is well. In fact, I must give credit where it is due. When the omission was corrected, the application was entered into the system on 9 June and approved on 27 June and I received it on 2 July! Actually, that is not bad. So I am legal! Richard __________________ "Für Gott, Kaiser, und Vaterland" -seeking: Erfrut Mag 1229 (no script)