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Kyrie · 03-09-2002, 07:20 PM

Hi Bill,

Respectfully, import marks are required on all imported firearms and have been since 1968 (see CFR178). And no, you (as non-importer) are not required to record import marks, as the ATF bound book record keeping requirements permits you to record the manufacturer *or* the importer.

Regarding your involvement in traces, by your description what you were involved in were fishing expeditions. When ATF does a firearm trace they identify the firearm they are tracing by supplying the type (rifle, shotgun, or handgun) make, model, serial number, and cartridge for which the firearm is chambered, and ask the dealer to whom he transferred the firearm. They already know everything about the firearmÃ¢??s characteristics - they have it in their possession. What they want from the dealer is who, not what. Yes - I have cooperated with ATF on firearm traces.

And no, this has nothing to do with mattress tags or a fictitious pillow police - I can assure you that the ATF enforcement branch is very real.

That said, and returning to the topic, yes, the intent of the importerÃ¢??s marking is to make the firearm traceable, which is why it is required by Federal statute. Removal of the importerÃ¢??s marking makes traces impossible, and ATF has ruled that willful removal of the importerÃ¢??s mark is a prosecutable offense. You may, if you wish, contend this with ATF - IÃ¢??m just the messenger.

Best regards,

Kyrie

03-09-2002, 07:20 PM	#14
Kyrie User Join Date: Jun 2002 Posts: 757 Thanks: 0 Thanked 212 Times in 101 Posts	Re: Not always.. Hi Bill, Respectfully, import marks are required on all imported firearms and have been since 1968 (see CFR178). And no, you (as non-importer) are not required to record import marks, as the ATF bound book record keeping requirements permits you to record the manufacturer or the importer. Regarding your involvement in traces, by your description what you were involved in were fishing expeditions. When ATF does a firearm trace they identify the firearm they are tracing by supplying the type (rifle, shotgun, or handgun) make, model, serial number, and cartridge for which the firearm is chambered, and ask the dealer to whom he transferred the firearm. They already know everything about the firearmÃ¢??s characteristics - they have it in their possession. What they want from the dealer is who, not what. Yes - I have cooperated with ATF on firearm traces. And no, this has nothing to do with mattress tags or a fictitious pillow police - I can assure you that the ATF enforcement branch is very real. That said, and returning to the topic, yes, the intent of the importerÃ¢??s marking is to make the firearm traceable, which is why it is required by Federal statute. Removal of the importerÃ¢??s marking makes traces impossible, and ATF has ruled that willful removal of the importerÃ¢??s mark is a prosecutable offense. You may, if you wish, contend this with ATF - IÃ¢??m just the messenger. Best regards, Kyrie