Were Any 1902 Luger Carbine

cirelaw · 03-31-2012, 07:21 PM

manufactured or built into 9MM. I hear that some earlier barrels machined in to a 9m calibre. Tks Eric. Esq.

Ron Wood · 03-31-2012, 11:42 PM

Yes. Some 1902 Carbines in 9mm were rebarreled or rebored (frequently advertised as "original", but they ain't!) however, I handled an original 9mm 1902 Carbine back in the 70's and one individual on this or Jan's forum owns an original.

cirelaw · 04-01-2012, 09:24 AM

Do You think they might have made custom orders?I say this as I saw in a luger add different options such as barrel lenghts?

Ron Wood · 04-01-2012, 11:20 AM

I think you will find that that ad dates from the 1920s, not 1902.

cirelaw · 04-01-2012, 01:08 PM

Please note this 1923 has the exact rear sight as my rear sight on my carbine. Rear sights we used on these part lugers!

cirelaw · 04-01-2012, 03:00 PM

in the 20S, My carbine sight is identical in the sample! I circular the sight same sight so theres no confusion! Both sights are identical.

Kitkat041836 · 04-01-2012, 03:25 PM

Why would anyone put three sights on a gun when only two
are needed?The front sight and the rear sight in front of the chamber,or the front sight and the rear sight on the rear
toggel link. That is all that is needed.
Thanks George

cirelaw · 04-01-2012, 03:40 PM

As best as I can say ig goes the elevation Now there a 2 models Im aware.Ill take out my kreighoff and navy and compare the all. Its there for some reason, we didnt put he there! Time to put this annoyance to bed. Thank You George. Your valuable input is great!! Whats your cats name. Mine unfortunatly in in the Heavens!

cirelaw · 04-01-2012, 03:54 PM

I give up, let put this one to bed. Thank for you most valuable input!

Kitkat041836 · 04-01-2012, 05:27 PM

Hi Eric
My 31pound cat's name is Charlie.
Thanks George

cirelaw · 04-01-2012, 05:48 PM

At that age its you who are 'Pet'!!!

cirelaw · 04-01-2012, 11:41 PM

DWM scroll on the front link. "SOME have V notch rear sight on rear link" Exantly as my rear sight, Why I don't know why but same configration!

Norme · 04-01-2012, 11:56 PM

Hi Eric, The long barreled gun in the pictures you've posted has a two position Navy rear sight, not a fixed blade. Regards, Norm

cirelaw · 04-02-2012, 09:03 AM

Norm your my hero. Great spoting! It appears the DWM had alot left over pieces! The one picture in Charles' book above is what should of been refered to and I quote "SOME have 'V' notch rear sight on rear link". page 186

SIGP2101 · 04-02-2012, 02:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cirelaw

Please note this 1923 has the exact rear sight as my rear sight on my carbine. Rear sights we used on these part lugers!

Please pay attention, what is on that picture it is not "1920 carbine". It is long barreled Luger. Carbine is different thing altogether.

cirelaw · 04-02-2012, 02:25 PM

I know what a 1920 carbine. I was mearly demonstrating that the rear site wasn't unique!! I'm sure the rear sight was intentional. Then who put it on? Apart from the sight what do you think of it.???

wlyon · 04-02-2012, 07:47 PM

Eric
In that era there were many companies and gunsmiths putting together a myrid of lugers. They did not care what sight was on what. Unfortunately this persisted with a few of our US dealers. I would be surprised if a luger ever left Germany, at least from DWM, with two rear sights. If you will look in Kenyons you will see that 1920 carbine has one rear sight. There is absolutely no reason for two rear sights except to sell a luger regardless of correctness. Bill

cirelaw · 04-02-2012, 08:01 PM

Bill Thank You for your input I can put this thread to bed!

03-31-2012, 07:21 PM	#1
cirelaw Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: PORT ST LUCIE, FLORIDA Posts: 12,216 Thanks: 6,209 Thanked 4,138 Times in 2,176 Posts	Were Any 1902 Luger Carbine manufactured or built into 9MM. I hear that some earlier barrels machined in to a 9m calibre. Tks Eric. Esq.

03-31-2012, 11:42 PM	#2
Ron Wood Moderator 2010 LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Santa Teresa New Mexico just outside of the West Texas town of El Paso Posts: 7,040 Thanks: 1,106 Thanked 5,257 Times in 1,724 Posts	Yes. Some 1902 Carbines in 9mm were rebarreled or rebored (frequently advertised as "original", but they ain't!) however, I handled an original 9mm 1902 Carbine back in the 70's and one individual on this or Jan's forum owns an original. __________________ If it's made after 1918...it's a reproduction

04-01-2012, 11:20 AM	#4
Ron Wood Moderator 2010 LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Santa Teresa New Mexico just outside of the West Texas town of El Paso Posts: 7,040 Thanks: 1,106 Thanked 5,257 Times in 1,724 Posts	I think you will find that that ad dates from the 1920s, not 1902. __________________ If it's made after 1918...it's a reproduction

04-01-2012, 01:08 PM	#5
cirelaw Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: PORT ST LUCIE, FLORIDA Posts: 12,216 Thanks: 6,209 Thanked 4,138 Times in 2,176 Posts	Please note this 1923 has the exact rear sight as my rear sight on my carbine. Rear sights we used on these part lugers! Attached Thumbnails

04-01-2012, 03:00 PM	#6
cirelaw Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: PORT ST LUCIE, FLORIDA Posts: 12,216 Thanks: 6,209 Thanked 4,138 Times in 2,176 Posts	My 1920 9mm Rear Sight Was Used In Various Parts Lugers in the 20S, My carbine sight is identical in the sample! I circular the sight same sight so theres no confusion! Both sights are identical. Attached Thumbnails

04-01-2012, 09:24 AM	#3
cirelaw Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: PORT ST LUCIE, FLORIDA Posts: 12,216 Thanks: 6,209 Thanked 4,138 Times in 2,176 Posts	Do You think they might have made custom orders?I say this as I saw in a luger add different options such as barrel lenghts?

04-01-2012, 03:25 PM	#7
Kitkat041836 RIP Join Date: Feb 2009 Posts: 195 Thanks: 0 Thanked 21 Times in 18 Posts	Why would anyone put three sights on a gun when only two are needed?The front sight and the rear sight in front of the chamber,or the front sight and the rear sight on the rear toggel link. That is all that is needed. Thanks George

04-01-2012, 03:40 PM	#8
cirelaw Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: PORT ST LUCIE, FLORIDA Posts: 12,216 Thanks: 6,209 Thanked 4,138 Times in 2,176 Posts	As best as I can say ig goes the elevation Now there a 2 models Im aware.Ill take out my kreighoff and navy and compare the all. Its there for some reason, we didnt put he there! Time to put this annoyance to bed. Thank You George. Your valuable input is great!! Whats your cats name. Mine unfortunatly in in the Heavens!

04-01-2012, 03:54 PM	#9
cirelaw Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: PORT ST LUCIE, FLORIDA Posts: 12,216 Thanks: 6,209 Thanked 4,138 Times in 2,176 Posts	I give up, let put this one to bed. Thank for you most valuable input!

04-01-2012, 05:27 PM	#10
Kitkat041836 RIP Join Date: Feb 2009 Posts: 195 Thanks: 0 Thanked 21 Times in 18 Posts	Hi Eric My 31pound cat's name is Charlie. Thanks George

04-01-2012, 05:48 PM	#11
cirelaw Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: PORT ST LUCIE, FLORIDA Posts: 12,216 Thanks: 6,209 Thanked 4,138 Times in 2,176 Posts	At that age its you who are 'Pet'!!! Attached Images

04-01-2012, 11:41 PM	#12
cirelaw Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: PORT ST LUCIE, FLORIDA Posts: 12,216 Thanks: 6,209 Thanked 4,138 Times in 2,176 Posts	hERES A 1920 'LONG BARREL' COMMERCIAL DWM scroll on the front link. "SOME have V notch rear sight on rear link" Exantly as my rear sight, Why I don't know why but same configration! Attached Thumbnails

04-01-2012, 11:56 PM	#13
Norme Always A Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Colorado Posts: 2,417 Thanks: 226 Thanked 2,607 Times in 933 Posts	Hi Eric, The long barreled gun in the pictures you've posted has a two position Navy rear sight, not a fixed blade. Regards, Norm

04-02-2012, 09:03 AM	#14
cirelaw Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: PORT ST LUCIE, FLORIDA Posts: 12,216 Thanks: 6,209 Thanked 4,138 Times in 2,176 Posts	Norm your my hero. Great spoting! It appears the DWM had alot left over pieces! The one picture in Charles' book above is what should of been refered to and I quote "SOME have 'V' notch rear sight on rear link". page 186

04-02-2012, 02:25 PM	#16
cirelaw Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: PORT ST LUCIE, FLORIDA Posts: 12,216 Thanks: 6,209 Thanked 4,138 Times in 2,176 Posts	I know what a 1920 carbine. I was mearly demonstrating that the rear site wasn't unique!! I'm sure the rear sight was intentional. Then who put it on? Apart from the sight what do you think of it.???

04-02-2012, 07:47 PM	#17
wlyon Lifer 2X Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: May 2005 Location: Somewhere in Montana Posts: 2,655 Thanks: 3,212 Thanked 2,619 Times in 971 Posts	Eric In that era there were many companies and gunsmiths putting together a myrid of lugers. They did not care what sight was on what. Unfortunately this persisted with a few of our US dealers. I would be surprised if a luger ever left Germany, at least from DWM, with two rear sights. If you will look in Kenyons you will see that 1920 carbine has one rear sight. There is absolutely no reason for two rear sights except to sell a luger regardless of correctness. Bill __________________ Bill Lyon

04-02-2012, 08:01 PM	#18
cirelaw Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: PORT ST LUCIE, FLORIDA Posts: 12,216 Thanks: 6,209 Thanked 4,138 Times in 2,176 Posts	Bill Thank You for your input I can put this thread to bed!