I'd help WWII bring back 16" barrel

alanint · 03-14-2012, 12:24 PM

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Your pistol never left the factory with the barrel that it has. These 16" barrels with the full length wood handguards were offered in the 60-70s by various vendors, including Sarco and Numrich Arms. They were meant to allow you to place a stock on your Luger legally to create a carbine.

kmichaels90 · 03-14-2012, 01:19 PM

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Originally Posted by alanint

Welcome to the Forum!

Your pistol never left the factory with the barrel that it has. These 16" barrels with the full legth wood handgaurds were offered in the 60-70s by various vendors, including Sarco and Numrich Arms. They were meant to allow you to place a stock on your Luger legally to create a carbine.

How could it be a barrel from the 60's or 70's if his grandfather brought it back that way in WWII. Also I have a letter from the atf (they made a bunch of copies for a local gunshop last year), and it states that all c96 mausers, lugers, and inglis highpowers are exempt from needing a tax stamp for the shoulder stock. Because they have been grandfathered in under the law.

sheepherder · 03-14-2012, 01:58 PM

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Originally Posted by kmichaels90

Also I have a letter from the atf (they made a bunch of copies for a local gunshop last year), and it states that all c96 mausers, lugers, and inglis highpowers are exempt from needing a tax stamp for the shoulder stock. Because they have been grandfathered in under the law.

Could you please post a hi-resolution scan of that letter? We would all appreciate it!

Thank you for your help!

alvin · 03-14-2012, 02:20 PM

ATF exemption was a recent event (1984?). From 1934 GCA through 1984, fifty year it's illegal to attach stock to pistol in the U.S., unless it's registered. That's history now, if the pistol is exempted in C&R list. Certain rules still apply though, e.g. stock, if not original, must be similar to original one -- that's very subjective, no detail spec.

kmichaels90 · 03-14-2012, 03:58 PM

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Originally Posted by alvin

ATF exemption was a recent event (1984?). From 1934 GCA through 1984, fifty year it's illegal to attach stock to pistol in the U.S., unless it's registered. That's history now, if the pistol is exempted in C&R list. Certain rules still apply though, e.g. stock, if not original, must be similar to original one -- that's very subjective, no detail spec.

That makes snese It did make mention of the fact that the stock had to be similar to original. Not just whatever you could cobble together.

sheepherder · 03-14-2012, 04:28 PM

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Originally Posted by kmichaels90

That makes snese It did make mention of the fact that the stock had to be similar to original. Not just whatever you could cobble together.

We would appreciate the scan of the letter regardless, if you could.

alanint · 03-15-2012, 08:08 PM

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Originally Posted by kmichaels90

How could it be a barrel from the 60's or 70's if his grandfather brought it back that way in WWII. Also I have a letter from the atf (they made a bunch of copies for a local gunshop last year), and it states that all c96 mausers, lugers, and inglis highpowers are exempt from needing a tax stamp for the shoulder stock. Because they have been grandfathered in under the law.

Because Grandad simply DID NOT bring the gun in this configuration back from WW2. No gun ever left a Luger factory with a 16" barrel, regardless of family history or lore.
The 16" barrels were produced at the time I mentioned to create a carbine from a 4" barrelled Luger, not to ruin an original Artillery or Navy. It was the only way to create a Carbine cheaply and legally.,

Your mention of the ATF ruling, (which is not news to anybody on this forum), has no bearing on this case.

03-14-2012, 12:24 PM	#1
alanint User Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Marco Island, Florida Posts: 4,867 Thanks: 1,685 Thanked 1,917 Times in 1,193 Posts	Welcome to the Forum! Your pistol never left the factory with the barrel that it has. These 16" barrels with the full length wood handguards were offered in the 60-70s by various vendors, including Sarco and Numrich Arms. They were meant to allow you to place a stock on your Luger legally to create a carbine. Last edited by alanint; 03-15-2012 at 08:54 PM.

03-14-2012, 02:20 PM	#4
alvin User Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: US Posts: 3,843 Thanks: 132 Thanked 729 Times in 438 Posts	ATF exemption was a recent event (1984?). From 1934 GCA through 1984, fifty year it's illegal to attach stock to pistol in the U.S., unless it's registered. That's history now, if the pistol is exempted in C&R list. Certain rules still apply though, e.g. stock, if not original, must be similar to original one -- that's very subjective, no detail spec.