Which holster do I have here ?

pors12 · 02-29-2012, 01:03 PM

Hello,

Found this holster some time ago.

Does anybody know what I do have here ?

best regards

Otto

lugerholsterrepair · 02-29-2012, 01:28 PM

Otto, This is a fairly nicely made Bulgarian style..Hard to say what year..Might be early or a reproduction.

rolandtg · 02-29-2012, 07:14 PM

Bulgarian-pattern for sure, later production, not WWI. Maybe WWII, or later or repro, hard to tell any more.
Looks very similar to one I have but nicer, with better shaped flap and loops for cleaning rod.
Any marks on it all? Mine has none.

pors12 · 02-29-2012, 11:01 PM

Hello,

It looks quit old to me, in used condition.
My swiss 06 luger fit´s perfekt in that holster.
There is no marking in the holster.

Some more pics:

regards

Otto

Hugo Borchardt · 02-29-2012, 11:54 PM

Very nice!

sheepherder · 03-01-2012, 07:01 AM

Yes, i agree with all the other members: quite nice!

I'm beginning ti be intrigued by the Bulgarian Lugers; they seem to be an ignored sub-niche of Luger lore...Perhaps as much as the infamous Russian Lugers...

I like the brown [neutral? natural?] coloring...And the back strap arrangement is interesting...

What exactly is the "D" ring for???

pors12 · 03-01-2012, 07:18 AM

Hello,

The D-Ring is just to hang it on to my wall.

Otto

alanint · 03-01-2012, 07:54 AM

The "D" ring on early holsters was usually used to carry the holster via an over the shoulder strap, which had a clip at each end. The strap would meet at the holster and be held close to the body by placing the duty belt over the straps.

Ron Wood · 03-01-2012, 10:14 AM

It is a nice looking holster and, as Jerry pointed out, definitely Bulgarian style. What intrigues me is that an '06 Swiss Luger fits in it perfectly. That would mean that it was made for a 4.75" barreled Luger. The last Bulgarian 4.75" barreled Luger was the 1906 7.65mm and most of them were rebarreled to 4" 9mm. I doubt that there were many (if any) 4.75" barreled Lugers in service in WWII.

pors12 · 03-01-2012, 10:45 AM

Hello Ron,

Here is how the gun´s fit in the holster .

best regards

Otto

lugerholsterrepair · 03-01-2012, 11:08 AM

Otto, The cleaning rod sleeves are a strong indicator that the holster is post 1950 and this feature is seen on many Eastern European post war holsters?

pors12 · 03-01-2012, 11:14 AM

Jerry,

I think you are right.
Could it be a holster for the byf 42 luger, mauser
delivered in 1943 to bulgaria ...
This luger´s were in service post ww2 i think.

regards

Otto

rolandtg · 03-01-2012, 11:32 PM

Here's some Q&D shots of mine. It came with the belt and shoulder strap. It was in the "raw" but it looks like someone took some brown shoe polish to it some time. I have no idea if it's "real" or repro. It shows only little signs of any wear. Pretty thick leather.
Actually I guess I forgot mine does have a stamp with cyrillic letters.

pors12 · 03-02-2012, 01:44 AM

Hello,

I found this holster in the book "Luger Holsters and Accessories
of the 20th century" by Eugene Bender.

There it says "1908 bulgarian variant holster".

regards

Otto

Lugerdoc · 03-02-2012, 08:54 AM

I agree that this holster is of the "Bulgarian pattern", but with the added cleaning rod loops and long enough for the 120mm barrel, my guess would also be post WW2 Commerical production. TH

02-29-2012, 01:03 PM	#1
pors12 User Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: Austria Posts: 115 Thanks: 24 Thanked 59 Times in 21 Posts	Which holster do I have here ? Hello, Found this holster some time ago. Does anybody know what I do have here ? best regards Otto Attached Thumbnails

02-29-2012, 01:28 PM	#2
lugerholsterrepair Moderator Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Arizona/Colorado Posts: 7,775 Thanks: 4,995 Thanked 3,133 Times in 1,439 Posts	Otto, This is a fairly nicely made Bulgarian style..Hard to say what year..Might be early or a reproduction. __________________ Jerry Burney 11491 S. Guadalupe Drive Yuma AZ 85367-6182 lugerholsterrepair@earthlink.net 928 342-7583 (CO & AZ) Year Round 719 207-3331 (cell) "For those who Fight For It, Life has a flavor the protected will never know."

02-29-2012, 11:01 PM	#4
pors12 User Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: Austria Posts: 115 Thanks: 24 Thanked 59 Times in 21 Posts	Hello, It looks quit old to me, in used condition. My swiss 06 luger fit´s perfekt in that holster. There is no marking in the holster. Some more pics: regards Otto Attached Thumbnails

02-29-2012, 11:54 PM	#5
Hugo Borchardt User Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Tennessee Posts: 372 Thanks: 340 Thanked 143 Times in 48 Posts	Very nice! __________________ My militaria collection is dedicated to the memory of my Grandfather, Marine Gunnery Sergeant Dave Hill, Jr., wounded in action at The Assault of the Second Marine Division on Betio Island, Tarawa Atoll, 20-23 November, 1943. http://www.tarawa1943.com/pages/casualties%20tarawa.htm

03-01-2012, 07:01 AM	#6
sheepherder Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: ...on the 'ol Erie Canal... Posts: 8,197 Thanks: 1,416 Thanked 4,462 Times in 2,336 Posts	Yes, i agree with all the other members: quite nice! I'm beginning ti be intrigued by the Bulgarian Lugers; they seem to be an ignored sub-niche of Luger lore...Perhaps as much as the infamous Russian Lugers... I like the brown [neutral? natural?] coloring...And the back strap arrangement is interesting... What exactly is the "D" ring for??? __________________ I like my coffee the way I like my women... ...Cold and bitter...

02-29-2012, 07:14 PM	#3
rolandtg User Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Texas Hill Country Posts: 479 Thanks: 389 Thanked 265 Times in 114 Posts	Bulgarian-pattern for sure, later production, not WWI. Maybe WWII, or later or repro, hard to tell any more. Looks very similar to one I have but nicer, with better shaped flap and loops for cleaning rod. Any marks on it all? Mine has none.

03-01-2012, 07:18 AM	#7
pors12 User Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: Austria Posts: 115 Thanks: 24 Thanked 59 Times in 21 Posts	Hello, The D-Ring is just to hang it on to my wall. Otto Attached Thumbnails

03-01-2012, 07:54 AM	#8
alanint User Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Marco Island, Florida Posts: 4,867 Thanks: 1,685 Thanked 1,917 Times in 1,193 Posts	The "D" ring on early holsters was usually used to carry the holster via an over the shoulder strap, which had a clip at each end. The strap would meet at the holster and be held close to the body by placing the duty belt over the straps.

03-01-2012, 10:14 AM	#9
Ron Wood Moderator 2010 LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Santa Teresa New Mexico just outside of the West Texas town of El Paso Posts: 7,040 Thanks: 1,106 Thanked 5,257 Times in 1,724 Posts	It is a nice looking holster and, as Jerry pointed out, definitely Bulgarian style. What intrigues me is that an '06 Swiss Luger fits in it perfectly. That would mean that it was made for a 4.75" barreled Luger. The last Bulgarian 4.75" barreled Luger was the 1906 7.65mm and most of them were rebarreled to 4" 9mm. I doubt that there were many (if any) 4.75" barreled Lugers in service in WWII. __________________ If it's made after 1918...it's a reproduction

03-01-2012, 10:45 AM	#10
pors12 User Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: Austria Posts: 115 Thanks: 24 Thanked 59 Times in 21 Posts	Hello Ron, Here is how the gun´s fit in the holster . best regards Otto Attached Thumbnails

03-01-2012, 11:08 AM	#11
lugerholsterrepair Moderator Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Arizona/Colorado Posts: 7,775 Thanks: 4,995 Thanked 3,133 Times in 1,439 Posts	Otto, The cleaning rod sleeves are a strong indicator that the holster is post 1950 and this feature is seen on many Eastern European post war holsters? __________________ Jerry Burney 11491 S. Guadalupe Drive Yuma AZ 85367-6182 lugerholsterrepair@earthlink.net 928 342-7583 (CO & AZ) Year Round 719 207-3331 (cell) "For those who Fight For It, Life has a flavor the protected will never know."

03-01-2012, 11:14 AM	#12
pors12 User Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: Austria Posts: 115 Thanks: 24 Thanked 59 Times in 21 Posts	Jerry, I think you are right. Could it be a holster for the byf 42 luger, mauser delivered in 1943 to bulgaria ... This luger´s were in service post ww2 i think. regards Otto

03-01-2012, 11:32 PM	#13
rolandtg User Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Texas Hill Country Posts: 479 Thanks: 389 Thanked 265 Times in 114 Posts	Here's some Q&D shots of mine. It came with the belt and shoulder strap. It was in the "raw" but it looks like someone took some brown shoe polish to it some time. I have no idea if it's "real" or repro. It shows only little signs of any wear. Pretty thick leather. Actually I guess I forgot mine does have a stamp with cyrillic letters. Attached Thumbnails

03-02-2012, 01:44 AM	#14
pors12 User Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: Austria Posts: 115 Thanks: 24 Thanked 59 Times in 21 Posts	Hello, I found this holster in the book "Luger Holsters and Accessories of the 20th century" by Eugene Bender. There it says "1908 bulgarian variant holster". regards Otto

03-02-2012, 08:54 AM	#15
Lugerdoc Patron LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: POB 398 St.Charles,MO. 63302 Posts: 5,089 Thanks: 6 Thanked 737 Times in 484 Posts	I agree that this holster is of the "Bulgarian pattern", but with the added cleaning rod loops and long enough for the 120mm barrel, my guess would also be post WW2 Commerical production. TH __________________ Tom Heller POB 398 ST.Charles, MO. 63302 Tel 636-447-3006 lugerdoc@charter.net