Luger finger prints

cirelaw · 02-03-2012, 12:59 PM

I want to make a point. Below is the rear toggle print individual and unique to each luger and call tell you at least part of the story. Here is the rear of the 1900 Test Luger #6786. A 1908 Navy #2505b and the 1917 Artiillery. It shows the artillery saw most action. The Navy and minimal Test Luger #6786. The least hands down and last was the 1937 Krieghoff evidencing no wear at all. It hasn't been reblued. Although, If there is minimal wear on a 80 year old luger, drop it and run!!

ithacaartist · 02-04-2012, 05:09 PM

Eric,
Now you have me wondering... I've noticed this aspect of my Lugers, too. It is definitely a sign of usage. But what I wonder is if this pattern can show lots of use of the gun by a large, deep spot from being hammered by the rear toggle, but could also look this way if the gun had been fired with ammo that was on the heavy side--bullets, grains of charge, kind of powder, etc., making a mark that, through limited actual 'use', could ,make the gun look as though it has had a lot of use. The inner 'ears' in the back of the receiver, and an area which could be contacted by the firing pin retainer's head when overpowered or heavy rounds have been fired, are also a couple other places to check for wear. (A tip of the hat to Gerard Henrotin, who pointed this out in his great little e-book, Luger Function.)

Hey, have there been any of those feral pythons reported near your area? Hoping for more back lawn wildlife shots from you!

David Parker

cirelaw · 02-04-2012, 05:19 PM

Brilliant It wasn't until I purchasee my 1917 Artillery from George Anderson and that I noticed His luger showed the most wear and they were are as unique as a fingerprint. Its a no brainer. At a gunshow it the greatest tool available. Does it correspond with the description the seller makes? If is perfect or near perfect? It should sign out a caveat. Its reblued or a gem. Just a camafloged turtle or my idiot ducks. Your invited down!

cirelaw · 02-04-2012, 06:37 PM

Debbies idiot duck returned north like the Canadians in their Buicks.. I took some cvloseups of my 1920 9mm luger carbine.I took the shot although show minimul wear its markaly different from other luger I own lugers at the time!! I've never shot any of my guns!

SIGP2101 · 02-15-2012, 03:51 PM

cireclaw, is it normal for carbine to have double rear sight like one in your photo?

cirelaw · 02-15-2012, 04:31 PM

Have You ever seen another 1920 9MM with hidden serial number with non military? I havent since I bought it 9 years ago!! I took some closeup for your review!!

SIGP2101 · 02-17-2012, 04:49 PM

I think I kind of getting your point LOL!
I knew that there is something wrong with it.

padredan · 02-17-2012, 05:47 PM

outstanding posts and thread, thanks

02-03-2012, 12:59 PM	#1
cirelaw Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: PORT ST LUCIE, FLORIDA Posts: 12,216 Thanks: 6,209 Thanked 4,133 Times in 2,173 Posts	Luger finger prints I want to make a point. Below is the rear toggle print individual and unique to each luger and call tell you at least part of the story. Here is the rear of the 1900 Test Luger #6786. A 1908 Navy #2505b and the 1917 Artiillery. It shows the artillery saw most action. The Navy and minimal Test Luger #6786. The least hands down and last was the 1937 Krieghoff evidencing no wear at all. It hasn't been reblued. Although, If there is minimal wear on a 80 year old luger, drop it and run!! Attached Thumbnails

02-04-2012, 06:37 PM	#4
cirelaw Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: PORT ST LUCIE, FLORIDA Posts: 12,216 Thanks: 6,209 Thanked 4,133 Times in 2,173 Posts	Take A Look At The Wear Patterns on A 1920 Carbine Debbies idiot duck returned north like the Canadians in their Buicks.. I took some cvloseups of my 1920 9mm luger carbine.I took the shot although show minimul wear its markaly different from other luger I own lugers at the time!! I've never shot any of my guns! Attached Thumbnails

02-17-2012, 05:47 PM	#8
padredan User Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: louisiana Now, but from the Rebublic of Texas Posts: 937 Thanks: 429 Thanked 316 Times in 182 Posts	outstanding posts and thread, thanks __________________ In this world nothing is free, except the grace of God

02-04-2012, 05:09 PM	#2
ithacaartist Twice a Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: Atop the highest hill in Schuyler County NY Posts: 3,346 Thanks: 7,271 Thanked 2,578 Times in 1,365 Posts	Eric, Now you have me wondering... I've noticed this aspect of my Lugers, too. It is definitely a sign of usage. But what I wonder is if this pattern can show lots of use of the gun by a large, deep spot from being hammered by the rear toggle, but could also look this way if the gun had been fired with ammo that was on the heavy side--bullets, grains of charge, kind of powder, etc., making a mark that, through limited actual 'use', could ,make the gun look as though it has had a lot of use. The inner 'ears' in the back of the receiver, and an area which could be contacted by the firing pin retainer's head when overpowered or heavy rounds have been fired, are also a couple other places to check for wear. (A tip of the hat to Gerard Henrotin, who pointed this out in his great little e-book, Luger Function.) Hey, have there been any of those feral pythons reported near your area? Hoping for more back lawn wildlife shots from you! David Parker

02-04-2012, 05:19 PM	#3
cirelaw Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: PORT ST LUCIE, FLORIDA Posts: 12,216 Thanks: 6,209 Thanked 4,133 Times in 2,173 Posts	Brilliant It wasn't until I purchasee my 1917 Artillery from George Anderson and that I noticed His luger showed the most wear and they were are as unique as a fingerprint. Its a no brainer. At a gunshow it the greatest tool available. Does it correspond with the description the seller makes? If is perfect or near perfect? It should sign out a caveat. Its reblued or a gem. Just a camafloged turtle or my idiot ducks. Your invited down!

02-15-2012, 03:51 PM	#5
SIGP2101 User Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Canada Posts: 256 Thanks: 74 Thanked 67 Times in 32 Posts	cireclaw, is it normal for carbine to have double rear sight like one in your photo?

02-15-2012, 04:31 PM	#6
cirelaw Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: PORT ST LUCIE, FLORIDA Posts: 12,216 Thanks: 6,209 Thanked 4,133 Times in 2,173 Posts	Good Question!! Have You ever seen another 1920 9MM with hidden serial number with non military? I havent since I bought it 9 years ago!! I took some closeup for your review!! Attached Thumbnails

02-17-2012, 04:49 PM	#7
SIGP2101 User Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Canada Posts: 256 Thanks: 74 Thanked 67 Times in 32 Posts	I think I kind of getting your point LOL! I knew that there is something wrong with it.