East German Luger

[Vlim]

Nice gun, but way too expensive. The 4000 Euro asking price is about 3000 too much.

[swissdagger]

A real part of the Luger history...and a way better made as the Mauser junk from the seventies and eighties.
A glossy finish is not all.

[hansfischer007]

Hey ..watch it with the "mauser junk from the 70s and 80s".....I still love mine.!!.......sent it off to Luger Doc yesterday for his Magic Fingers to do a tune up.........and Im sure it will be fine.......as he "cured' my 1918 DWM that had a few problems.....We all have our own little niche that we like to collect............and some of us like me.....Retired Army Sgt. after 26 years.....just dont have the $4,000 bucks for the high end items...

[swissdagger]

Originally Posted by hansfischer007

Hey ..watch it with the "mauser junk from the 70s and 80s".....I still love mine.!!.......sent it off to Luger Doc yesterday for his Magic Fingers to do a tune up.........and Im sure it will be fine.......as he "cured' my 1918 DWM that had a few problems.....We all have our own little niche that we like to collect............and some of us like me.....Retired Army Sgt. after 26 years.....just dont have the $4,000 bucks for the high end items...

You can collect what ever you want but a cheap,mismatched VOPO Luger is always a better shooter and a more valuable collector piece as one of the new Mausers from the seventies and eighties or a Mitchell Arms Luger.
After 25 years in the gun business I know if I see junk, for that I have not to read any books.
In the last years I sold maybe 20 or 30 of such new made Mausers.
High glossy polished junk is still junk.
Sorry, my english is still not the best......

[silverknife]

Originally Posted by swissdagger

You can collect what ever you want but
a cheap,mismatched VOPO Luger is always a better shooter and a more valuable collector piece as one of the new Mausers from the seventies and eighties or a Mitchell Arms Luger.
After 25 years in the gun business I know if I see junk,
for that I have not to read any books.
In the last years I sold maybe 20 or 30 of such new made Mausers.
High glossy polished junk is still junk.
Sorry, my english is still not the best......

25 years in the gun business is a long time and certainly long enough to form an opinion on what constitutes junk and what does not. However, my Interarms .30 Luger, which I shoot on a regular basis, falls quite a distance above "junk" on my quality scale of production firearms even though the oversized and too sharply checkered grips had to be reworked to make the gun more comfortable to shoot. Got my first long gun in 1950 and my first handgun in 1962.

Regards,
Doug

[Vlim]

Ludwig Vorgrimler was the chief STG45 and Cetme guy wasn't he?

Yes, he was. Interestingly enough, while he was working for Mauser in the 1970s, their neigbors Heckler & Koch were producing the G3 rifle, based on his design.

Price wise, the Mauser Parabellum is still a bit more expensive than a VoPo, although it is still possible to find very good deals on both of them. They both have their merits and from a collector stand point they are starting to get past a 'shooter' state. When going for a Mauser Parabellum, go for a boxed version with all the accessories and paper work.

I wonder if the Mitchel/Aimco/Orimar stainless steel versions will become popular collectables.

[mecano44]

Originally Posted by swissdagger

You can collect what ever you want but
a cheap,mismatched VOPO Luger is always a better shooter and a more valuable collector piece as one of the new Mausers from the seventies and eighties or a Mitchell Arms Luger.
After 25 years in the gun business I know if I see junk,
for that I have not to read any books.
In the last years I sold maybe 20 or 30 of such new made Mausers.
High glossy polished junk is still junk.
Sorry, my english is still not the best......

I would be careful to write this kind of opinion....you just have a 06/73 and a Vopo to sell....and the price of the first one is twice that of the second ........