luger pic

tomaustin · 07-01-2011, 10:34 PM

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tomaustin · 07-01-2011, 10:40 PM

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nukem556 · 07-01-2011, 10:57 PM

cool....Falschirmjager trooper?

EricW · 07-02-2011, 03:14 AM

In the first photo, the Luger tucked in the guy's belt appears to have a circle on/in the upper grip... any ideas on this circle?

alanint · 07-02-2011, 06:52 AM

Pic one; In the context of the photo, the mark on the gun's grip is probably dried mud, which would be light as the area appears to be a clay soil area. I hypothesize this based on the similar mud smeared camouflage on the German helmets and the fact that the gun has been captured.
Pic 2; A very early Falshirmjager photo based on several factors;
- Early issue M1936, step-in green jump smock
- Bright, not subdued, belt buckle
- Helmet still retains eagle, has no cammo or covering, which was common mid-late war
- Falshirmjager troops were universally issued the P38. Very unusual, though not unheard of, to see a Luger issued to early troops.
He is holding his long jump gauntlets in his other hand and what appeares to be a barracks is visible in the background. A Training photo just prior to Eben-Emael??

pitsword · 07-02-2011, 02:31 PM

The first photo looks to be a couple of Russians posing. The tunics do not look German and the belt on the one holding the Tok doesn't look German. Probably just my tired old eyes.
Best to all.

Ron Wood · 07-02-2011, 03:14 PM

If the first photo is a couple of Russians posing, could the circle on the grip be a Finn property disk?

SteveM · 07-02-2011, 03:27 PM

Looks like a SVT40 rifle....I was thinking the same thing about the disc looking object on the Luger grip.

pitsword · 07-02-2011, 06:09 PM

Haaa. I'll bet they are Finns. That is why the disk is missing from the belted pistol and explains the Tok and tunics.

EricW · 07-03-2011, 07:10 AM

a proper disk?...

http://www.collectorssource.com/cata...32/image/8508/

sheepherder · 07-03-2011, 08:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pitsword

The tunics do not look German....

and do not have the winged eagle over the pocket...

My first thought was that the right hand soldier looks like the 'servant' in "The Manchurian Candidate" (the first one). Then I thought that the left soldier looks African-American...Maybe a movie pic???

The pic is labeled The Continuation War...

alanint · 07-03-2011, 11:21 AM

The two soldiers in the photo are clearly either Finnish or Russian. Those are not German uniforms. That's why I postulated that the Lugers were captured, but if they are indeed Finns, then they are their issued guns.

saab-bob · 07-03-2011, 03:01 PM

Great pics!
So,the consensus on the first pic is 2 Finns with a captured SVT40?
That would make sense, as the Finns fought the Russians in WW2 and where armed by the Germans. I have also read the Russian SVT40 was a prized battlefield pick up.
Bob

lugerholsterrepair · 07-03-2011, 04:10 PM

Tom, Both of the 2 men appear to have pistol lanyards attached! Do you own this photo?
Jerry Burney

Ron Wood · 07-03-2011, 04:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by EricW

a proper disk?...

http://www.collectorssource.com/cata...32/image/8508/

Eric,
Yes, that is a "proper" disk. Thanks for the link, it is a good example of a Finnish Luger with the Finn installed replacement barrel made by Tikkakoski ("T" in a triangle in a circle trademark).
Ron

rolandtg · 07-03-2011, 06:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by postino

The pic is labeled The Continuation War...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Continuation_War

sheepherder · 07-03-2011, 07:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rolandtg

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Continuation_War

Hmmm...More Finnish battlefield pickups...

hgreer2 · 07-03-2011, 07:56 PM

This may sound stupid, were the Finns our enemy in WW11 ?

Harry

skimoe55 · 07-03-2011, 08:02 PM

Oh ya,!!!

saab-bob · 07-03-2011, 08:41 PM

Harry
Short answer,no.
The Finns where never our enemy. They where trying not to be invaded by the Soviets and went to the Germans for help. They fought the Soviets to a stalemate and as a result did not end up like the rest of Eastern Europe,a Soviet satellite state run by communists(AKA socialists).

For further info, read the Wikipedia article mentioned above.

"There are no stupid questions,only stupid answers"

Bob

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Ron Wood Moderator 2010 LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Santa Teresa New Mexico just outside of the West Texas town of El Paso Posts: 7,040 Thanks: 1,106 Thanked 5,257 Times in 1,724 Posts	If the first photo is a couple of Russians posing, could the circle on the grip be a Finn property disk? __________________ If it's made after 1918...it's a reproduction

07-03-2011, 03:01 PM	#13
saab-bob User Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: So Cal Posts: 459 Thanks: 774 Thanked 143 Times in 87 Posts	Great pics! So,the consensus on the first pic is 2 Finns with a captured SVT40? That would make sense, as the Finns fought the Russians in WW2 and where armed by the Germans. I have also read the Russian SVT40 was a prized battlefield pick up. Bob __________________ "I think,therefore I own guns"

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lugerholsterrepair Moderator Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Arizona/Colorado Posts: 7,775 Thanks: 4,995 Thanked 3,133 Times in 1,439 Posts	Tom, Both of the 2 men appear to have pistol lanyards attached! Do you own this photo? Jerry Burney __________________ Jerry Burney 11491 S. Guadalupe Drive Yuma AZ 85367-6182 lugerholsterrepair@earthlink.net 928 342-7583 (CO & AZ) Year Round 719 207-3331 (cell) "For those who Fight For It, Life has a flavor the protected will never know."

07-01-2011, 10:57 PM	#3
nukem556 User Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: Irmo, SC Posts: 625 Thanks: 35 Thanked 168 Times in 107 Posts	cool....Falschirmjager trooper?

07-02-2011, 03:14 AM	#4
EricW User Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: CA, USA Posts: 62 Thanks: 4 Thanked 2 Times in 2 Posts	In the first photo, the Luger tucked in the guy's belt appears to have a circle on/in the upper grip... any ideas on this circle?

07-02-2011, 06:52 AM	#5
alanint User Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Marco Island, Florida Posts: 4,867 Thanks: 1,685 Thanked 1,917 Times in 1,193 Posts	Pic one; In the context of the photo, the mark on the gun's grip is probably dried mud, which would be light as the area appears to be a clay soil area. I hypothesize this based on the similar mud smeared camouflage on the German helmets and the fact that the gun has been captured. Pic 2; A very early Falshirmjager photo based on several factors; - Early issue M1936, step-in green jump smock - Bright, not subdued, belt buckle - Helmet still retains eagle, has no cammo or covering, which was common mid-late war - Falshirmjager troops were universally issued the P38. Very unusual, though not unheard of, to see a Luger issued to early troops. He is holding his long jump gauntlets in his other hand and what appeares to be a barracks is visible in the background. A Training photo just prior to Eben-Emael??

07-02-2011, 02:31 PM	#6
pitsword User Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Southern Maine Posts: 459 Thanks: 3,964 Thanked 103 Times in 83 Posts	The first photo looks to be a couple of Russians posing. The tunics do not look German and the belt on the one holding the Tok doesn't look German. Probably just my tired old eyes. Best to all.

07-02-2011, 03:27 PM	#8
SteveM User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Texas Posts: 1,016 Thanks: 94 Thanked 275 Times in 137 Posts	Looks like a SVT40 rifle....I was thinking the same thing about the disc looking object on the Luger grip.

07-02-2011, 06:09 PM	#9
pitsword User Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Southern Maine Posts: 459 Thanks: 3,964 Thanked 103 Times in 83 Posts	Haaa. I'll bet they are Finns. That is why the disk is missing from the belted pistol and explains the Tok and tunics.

07-03-2011, 07:10 AM	#10
EricW User Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: CA, USA Posts: 62 Thanks: 4 Thanked 2 Times in 2 Posts	a proper disk?... http://www.collectorssource.com/cata...32/image/8508/

07-03-2011, 11:21 AM	#12
alanint User Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Marco Island, Florida Posts: 4,867 Thanks: 1,685 Thanked 1,917 Times in 1,193 Posts	The two soldiers in the photo are clearly either Finnish or Russian. Those are not German uniforms. That's why I postulated that the Lugers were captured, but if they are indeed Finns, then they are their issued guns.

07-03-2011, 07:56 PM	#18
hgreer2 Banned Join Date: Nov 2010 Posts: 309 Thanks: 1 Thanked 29 Times in 20 Posts	This may sound stupid, were the Finns our enemy in WW11 ? Harry

07-03-2011, 08:02 PM	#19
skimoe55 User Join Date: Jul 2011 Posts: 6 Thanks: 0 Thanked 3 Times in 2 Posts	Oh ya,!!!

07-03-2011, 08:41 PM	#20
saab-bob User Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: So Cal Posts: 459 Thanks: 774 Thanked 143 Times in 87 Posts	Harry Short answer,no. The Finns where never our enemy. They where trying not to be invaded by the Soviets and went to the Germans for help. They fought the Soviets to a stalemate and as a result did not end up like the rest of Eastern Europe,a Soviet satellite state run by communists(AKA socialists). For further info, read the Wikipedia article mentioned above. "There are no stupid questions,only stupid answers" Bob __________________ "I think,therefore I own guns"