Anyone here like machine guns........ - Page 4

hgreer2 · 06-29-2011, 01:37 PM

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Originally Posted by lugerholsterrepair

Harry..If you had my money your hair would turn white, you would soil your pants and be pushing a shopping cart with all your stuff in it.

Nice MG..I am partial to subguns though.

Keep your voice down, the IRS thinks I live that way already....

Harry

hgreer2 · 06-29-2011, 01:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Norme

If Harry doesn't mind me posting a picture on "his" thread, here's the machine gun I'd like to own. Regards, Norm

No problem, the more pictures, the merrier. Can you discribe what it is, I would like to know ?

Harry

Norme · 06-29-2011, 02:56 PM

It's an MG 08, Harry, the standard German heavy MG through WW1 and on until the early 40's. If you're wondering what to get me for my Birthday (coming up in a few weeks, by the way), one of these would look very nice in my den. Regards, Norm

hgreer2 · 06-29-2011, 03:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Norme

It's an MG 08, Harry, the standard German heavy MG through WW1 and on until the early 40's. If you're wondering what to get me for my Birthday (coming up in a few weeks, by the way), one of these would look very nice in my den. Regards, Norm

Interesting gun Norme, thanks. Click here for some great pictures.

Harry

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saab-bob · 06-29-2011, 04:09 PM

A sub gun I had the pleasure of shooting awhile back was a Beretta Model 12. Which I notice was hanging on the wall of your friends collection.
Yes,I know it is not WW2,but it sure is a sweet handling sub gun.Shoots from a open bolt,but is very accurate and controllable. So much nicer then those slam fire MAC guns I used to mess about with.
Bob

alanint · 06-29-2011, 04:58 PM

That would be Sport System Dittrich, which makes reasonably priced semi replicas of a number of Third Reich weapons. The problem is our ATF regulations, which require a number of US made parts to enter. There are two companies who have managed to assemble semi MP44s here in the US, but right now this is a trickle. The FG42 is still not available.

http://www.ssd-weapon.com/web_en/produkte_en.htm

Real FG42s skyrocketed in asking price from $60-70K to well over $100K after some guy with more money than brains paid $100K plus for one at a James Julia auction a year or so ago. Now everybody with one wants the moon. I think they will settle back to $100K or less in this economy.

hgreer2 · 06-29-2011, 05:53 PM

A little internet research and success. The reason Johnson didn't produce his second LMG, he sold the patents to Isreal and a company named Dror produced them.

Harry

hgreer2 · 06-29-2011, 05:56 PM

A little bonus picture, now I know what I want to use my second snail drum for.

Harry

sheepherder · 06-29-2011, 06:13 PM

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Originally Posted by lugerholsterrepair

semi-auto replicas of the FG42 nowadays. Cool! A MG with prostate problems!

They got the first model, too - the fishtail stock & raked grip...Doesn't say how much...

...But I imagine only Michael Zeleny can afford one anyway...

alanint · 06-29-2011, 06:22 PM

They sell for between 2-3 thousand in Germany. The importers here are asking and getting $5000 for the MP44s. The FG42 has still not been offered. I am still owed a $1,500 deposit by that crook at www.FG42.us who took money from dozens of us then bailed out on the project just short of production, selling all the jigs and parts to someone else and skipping town.

jl7422 · 06-30-2011, 12:32 AM

My favorite subgun remains the PPSh-41. Simple, robust, and a great rate of fire. Plus there's just something cool about having the empty brass still raining down on you for a moment or two after a drum-dump. . .

Douglas Jr. · 06-30-2011, 09:59 AM

Currently I own three machine guns (all of them fully auto and live): a BAR 1918A2, a MP28 and a Thompson.

Do not intend to expand much more. My main interest is on pistols. In fact, the only "big size" I would love to own would be a MP44. That would make me a happy guy!

Douglas

hgreer2 · 06-30-2011, 12:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Douglas Jr.

Currently I own three machine guns (all of them fully auto and live): a BAR 1918A2, a MP28 and a Thompson.

Do not intend to expand much more. My main interest is on pistols. In fact, the only "big size" I would love to own would be a MP44. That would make me a happy guy!

Douglas

Want to trade the BAR and the Thompson for some Lugers....

Harry

Douglas Jr. · 07-01-2011, 11:06 AM

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Originally Posted by hgreer2

Want to trade the BAR and the Thompson for some Lugers....

Harry

Oh Harry, too much trouble to ship'em to US!

Douglas

jonnyc · 07-01-2011, 12:14 PM

Only 5000 rounds per weapon??? What about next weekend???

George Anderson · 07-01-2011, 03:42 PM

A group of us get together every July here in the valley to shoot speed-guns, swap guns, eat Bratwurst and drink beer; in that order.

lugerholsterrepair · 07-01-2011, 03:52 PM

Geeze George! Is that an open invatation? Who is the young handsome fella holding the MP18?

Wish I could make it..Maybe next year.

George Anderson · 07-01-2011, 04:09 PM

Jerry, that be the MP18 you shot. All I did was carry and load.

lugerholsterrepair · 07-01-2011, 04:12 PM

I can't make up my mind..Which was better to shoot... the MP18 or the stocked Borchardt?

Thanks for the good times George..

Jerry

hgreer2 · 07-01-2011, 05:55 PM

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Originally Posted by George Anderson

A group of us get together every July here in the valley to shoot speed-guns, swap guns, eat Bratwurst and drink beer; in that order.

Dang George, beer, yes, MG's, yes, beer and MG's...............

Harry

06-29-2011, 04:09 PM	#65
saab-bob User Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: So Cal Posts: 459 Thanks: 774 Thanked 143 Times in 87 Posts	A sub gun I had the pleasure of shooting awhile back was a Beretta Model 12. Which I notice was hanging on the wall of your friends collection. Yes,I know it is not WW2,but it sure is a sweet handling sub gun.Shoots from a open bolt,but is very accurate and controllable. So much nicer then those slam fire MAC guns I used to mess about with. Bob __________________ "I think,therefore I own guns"

06-29-2011, 05:53 PM	#67
hgreer2 Banned Join Date: Nov 2010 Posts: 309 Thanks: 1 Thanked 29 Times in 20 Posts	A little internet research and success. The reason Johnson didn't produce his second LMG, he sold the patents to Isreal and a company named Dror produced them. Harry Attached Thumbnails

06-29-2011, 05:56 PM	#68
hgreer2 Banned Join Date: Nov 2010 Posts: 309 Thanks: 1 Thanked 29 Times in 20 Posts	A little bonus picture, now I know what I want to use my second snail drum for. Harry Attached Images

07-01-2011, 03:42 PM	#76
George Anderson Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: VA Posts: 3,592 Thanks: 1,773 Thanked 2,531 Times in 788 Posts	A group of us get together every July here in the valley to shoot speed-guns, swap guns, eat Bratwurst and drink beer; in that order. Attached Thumbnails

07-01-2011, 03:52 PM	#77
lugerholsterrepair Moderator Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Arizona/Colorado Posts: 7,775 Thanks: 4,995 Thanked 3,133 Times in 1,439 Posts	Geeze George! Is that an open invatation? Who is the young handsome fella holding the MP18? Wish I could make it..Maybe next year. __________________ Jerry Burney 11491 S. Guadalupe Drive Yuma AZ 85367-6182 lugerholsterrepair@earthlink.net 928 342-7583 (CO & AZ) Year Round 719 207-3331 (cell) "For those who Fight For It, Life has a flavor the protected will never know."

06-29-2011, 02:56 PM	#63
Norme Always A Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Colorado Posts: 2,417 Thanks: 226 Thanked 2,607 Times in 933 Posts	It's an MG 08, Harry, the standard German heavy MG through WW1 and on until the early 40's. If you're wondering what to get me for my Birthday (coming up in a few weeks, by the way), one of these would look very nice in my den. Regards, Norm

06-29-2011, 04:58 PM	#66
alanint User Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Marco Island, Florida Posts: 4,867 Thanks: 1,685 Thanked 1,917 Times in 1,193 Posts	That would be Sport System Dittrich, which makes reasonably priced semi replicas of a number of Third Reich weapons. The problem is our ATF regulations, which require a number of US made parts to enter. There are two companies who have managed to assemble semi MP44s here in the US, but right now this is a trickle. The FG42 is still not available. http://www.ssd-weapon.com/web_en/produkte_en.htm Real FG42s skyrocketed in asking price from $60-70K to well over $100K after some guy with more money than brains paid $100K plus for one at a James Julia auction a year or so ago. Now everybody with one wants the moon. I think they will settle back to $100K or less in this economy.

06-29-2011, 06:22 PM	#70
alanint User Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Marco Island, Florida Posts: 4,867 Thanks: 1,685 Thanked 1,917 Times in 1,193 Posts	They sell for between 2-3 thousand in Germany. The importers here are asking and getting $5000 for the MP44s. The FG42 has still not been offered. I am still owed a $1,500 deposit by that crook at www.FG42.us who took money from dozens of us then bailed out on the project just short of production, selling all the jigs and parts to someone else and skipping town.

06-30-2011, 12:32 AM	#71
jl7422 User Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: West Posts: 53 Thanks: 0 Thanked 7 Times in 5 Posts	My favorite subgun remains the PPSh-41. Simple, robust, and a great rate of fire. Plus there's just something cool about having the empty brass still raining down on you for a moment or two after a drum-dump. . .

06-30-2011, 09:59 AM	#72
Douglas Jr. User Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: South America Posts: 948 Thanks: 598 Thanked 584 Times in 254 Posts	Currently I own three machine guns (all of them fully auto and live): a BAR 1918A2, a MP28 and a Thompson. Do not intend to expand much more. My main interest is on pistols. In fact, the only "big size" I would love to own would be a MP44. That would make me a happy guy! Douglas

07-01-2011, 12:14 PM	#75
jonnyc User Join Date: Dec 2008 Posts: 425 Thanks: 2 Thanked 46 Times in 34 Posts	Only 5000 rounds per weapon??? What about next weekend???

07-01-2011, 04:09 PM	#78
George Anderson Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: VA Posts: 3,592 Thanks: 1,773 Thanked 2,531 Times in 788 Posts	Jerry, that be the MP18 you shot. All I did was carry and load.

07-01-2011, 04:12 PM	#79
lugerholsterrepair Moderator Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Arizona/Colorado Posts: 7,775 Thanks: 4,995 Thanked 3,133 Times in 1,439 Posts	I can't make up my mind..Which was better to shoot... the MP18 or the stocked Borchardt? Thanks for the good times George.. Jerry __________________ Jerry Burney 11491 S. Guadalupe Drive Yuma AZ 85367-6182 lugerholsterrepair@earthlink.net 928 342-7583 (CO & AZ) Year Round 719 207-3331 (cell) "For those who Fight For It, Life has a flavor the protected will never know."