New S/42 in the family tonight - Page 2

John Sabato · 12-03-2010, 08:36 AM

You WILL get the small problems worked out I am certain... but regardless of the source of parts, and the fact that the gun didn't leave the factory with the parts it has now, it is a fine looking refinished Luger and should give you a lifetime of shooting service...

Congrats on the acquisition...

rivieraranch · 12-11-2010, 02:45 PM

RANGE REPORT

After I received 2 new 2 Mec Gar magazines I took the weapon to the range this morning. Some malfunctions did not appear, but others persist.

The firing pin reliably cocked each time. The hold open did not engage while there were still rounds in the magazine.

However, as with last trip to the range, there were a couple of instances of used casings stovepiping. The most prevalent malfunction was that often the new rounds would not feed properly into the chamber. There was some play in the magazine catch. If I put the gun on the table and pressed down while shooting this would not occur.

DavidJayUden · 12-11-2010, 05:08 PM

The used casings stovepiping suggests the possibility of a bad ejector, weak ammo, a dirty action, too stiff a main spring, or limp wristing. Basically the toggle isn't going back hard enough to pitch the case free of the chamber area.
Your mag catch could be worn, or the slot on the mag. could be worn or in the wrong spot. Sometimes you need to experiment to find the right mag. that works with the right gun. And the right ammo, etc. Nothing is simple with these but that's part of the fun.
Dito the feeding issue. Try other ammo, consider the main spring, etc. Something as trivial as the bullet shape can dramatically effect the function of these guns.
Now get back to the range...
dju

rivieraranch · 12-12-2010, 09:54 AM

I don't know how to determine if the ejector is bad. It works most of the time. I used Winchester white box ammunition. You could eat off of the action. Nobody ever accused me of being limp wristed. So I agree that perhaps the mainspring should be changed. Also could the magazine catch be "built up" to secure the magazines higher in the well?

Vlim · 12-12-2010, 10:36 AM

Hi,

Check the little coil spring under the extractor first. I had a similar experience with a parts gun years ago. Even when the rounds did extract, it would bounce them off the side of the gun. After a new coil spring was fitted under the extractor the empty cases flew like Georg intended (landing on top of the head or in the neck area, just under the collar

).

rivieraranch · 12-12-2010, 01:17 PM

The extractor spring appears very taut. It is real hard to raise the extractor manually. I noticed a P-08 spring rehab kit for sale on ebay. Don't know if they are good but the seller has quite a lot of gun parts going on.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...=STRK:MEWAX:IT

rivieraranch · 12-18-2010, 11:36 PM

I replaced the mainspring and the springs for the trigger, firing pin and extractor.

The replacement mainspring was a tad shorter than the one I took out. This may mean the new one will not bind up. The trigger pull is increased a little bit but nothing inordinate. Most notably, the extractor spring replacement was shorter and after installing it the extractor was easier to lift manually. The extractor being too tight was probably responsible for all the stovepipes.

I also bent the magazine catch spring a little to help hold the magazines in better.

Hopefully it will do better at the range next time.

rivieraranch · 05-27-2011, 04:02 PM

Can you believe that I haven't been to the range since December!

I visited my range today. The pistol was stovepiping after nearly every round. Then I noticed that the ejector broke off.

Now I need to get a new ejector.

Lugerdoc · 05-29-2011, 10:25 AM

RR, I have in stock NOS WW2 Mauser PO8 ejectors @$75 each or used @$50. Please also include $6 S&H and send MO or check to Tom Heller POB 398 St.Chalres, MO. 63302. Thanks, Tom

rivieraranch · 05-31-2011, 10:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lugerdoc

RR, I have in stock NOS WW2 Mauser PO8 ejectors @$75 each or used @$50. Please also include $6 S&H and send MO or check to Tom Heller POB 398 St.Chalres, MO. 63302. Thanks, Tom

I am thinking of sending the pistol to you for a look-see. I replaced the recoil spring with one that had slightly less pressure Could that have caused/contributed to the broken ejector, or is it just one of those things? In addition the pistol seems to shoot high and to the left.

Lugerdoc · 06-01-2011, 09:26 AM

I doubt that the change of recoil springs had anything to do with your ejector failure. I don't do any "accurizing" but it sounds like your need a higher front sight blade (NOS ones available @$25) and repositioned to the right. I'll be happy to inspect your luger, diagnose any problems and quote cost of repair for a $75 inspection fee + $25 return S&H. Tom

12-03-2010, 08:36 AM	#21
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12-11-2010, 02:45 PM	#22
rivieraranch User Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: South Florida Posts: 101 Thanks: 4 Thanked 4 Times in 4 Posts	RANGE REPORT After I received 2 new 2 Mec Gar magazines I took the weapon to the range this morning. Some malfunctions did not appear, but others persist. The firing pin reliably cocked each time. The hold open did not engage while there were still rounds in the magazine. However, as with last trip to the range, there were a couple of instances of used casings stovepiping. The most prevalent malfunction was that often the new rounds would not feed properly into the chamber. There was some play in the magazine catch. If I put the gun on the table and pressed down while shooting this would not occur. Last edited by rivieraranch; 12-11-2010 at 02:48 PM. Reason: omssion

12-12-2010, 01:17 PM	#26
rivieraranch User Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: South Florida Posts: 101 Thanks: 4 Thanked 4 Times in 4 Posts	The extractor spring appears very taut. It is real hard to raise the extractor manually. I noticed a P-08 spring rehab kit for sale on ebay. Don't know if they are good but the seller has quite a lot of gun parts going on. http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...=STRK:MEWAX:IT Last edited by rivieraranch; 12-12-2010 at 01:18 PM. Reason: omission

05-29-2011, 10:25 AM	#29
Lugerdoc Patron LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: POB 398 St.Charles,MO. 63302 Posts: 5,089 Thanks: 6 Thanked 737 Times in 484 Posts	RR, I have in stock NOS WW2 Mauser PO8 ejectors @$75 each or used @$50. Please also include $6 S&H and send MO or check to Tom Heller POB 398 St.Chalres, MO. 63302. Thanks, Tom __________________ Tom Heller POB 398 ST.Charles, MO. 63302 Tel 636-447-3006 lugerdoc@charter.net

06-01-2011, 09:26 AM	#31
Lugerdoc Patron LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: POB 398 St.Charles,MO. 63302 Posts: 5,089 Thanks: 6 Thanked 737 Times in 484 Posts	I doubt that the change of recoil springs had anything to do with your ejector failure. I don't do any "accurizing" but it sounds like your need a higher front sight blade (NOS ones available @$25) and repositioned to the right. I'll be happy to inspect your luger, diagnose any problems and quote cost of repair for a $75 inspection fee + $25 return S&H. Tom __________________ Tom Heller POB 398 ST.Charles, MO. 63302 Tel 636-447-3006 lugerdoc@charter.net

12-11-2010, 05:08 PM	#23
DavidJayUden Patron LugerForum Patron Join Date: Nov 2008 Posts: 4,047 Thanks: 578 Thanked 1,414 Times in 887 Posts	The used casings stovepiping suggests the possibility of a bad ejector, weak ammo, a dirty action, too stiff a main spring, or limp wristing. Basically the toggle isn't going back hard enough to pitch the case free of the chamber area. Your mag catch could be worn, or the slot on the mag. could be worn or in the wrong spot. Sometimes you need to experiment to find the right mag. that works with the right gun. And the right ammo, etc. Nothing is simple with these but that's part of the fun. Dito the feeding issue. Try other ammo, consider the main spring, etc. Something as trivial as the bullet shape can dramatically effect the function of these guns. Now get back to the range... dju

12-12-2010, 09:54 AM	#24
rivieraranch User Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: South Florida Posts: 101 Thanks: 4 Thanked 4 Times in 4 Posts	I don't know how to determine if the ejector is bad. It works most of the time. I used Winchester white box ammunition. You could eat off of the action. Nobody ever accused me of being limp wristed. So I agree that perhaps the mainspring should be changed. Also could the magazine catch be "built up" to secure the magazines higher in the well?

12-12-2010, 10:36 AM	#25
Vlim Moderator Lifetime LugerForum Patron Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Europe Posts: 5,053 Thanks: 1,036 Thanked 3,990 Times in 1,205 Posts	Hi, Check the little coil spring under the extractor first. I had a similar experience with a parts gun years ago. Even when the rounds did extract, it would bounce them off the side of the gun. After a new coil spring was fitted under the extractor the empty cases flew like Georg intended (landing on top of the head or in the neck area, just under the collar ).

12-18-2010, 11:36 PM	#27
rivieraranch User Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: South Florida Posts: 101 Thanks: 4 Thanked 4 Times in 4 Posts	I replaced the mainspring and the springs for the trigger, firing pin and extractor. The replacement mainspring was a tad shorter than the one I took out. This may mean the new one will not bind up. The trigger pull is increased a little bit but nothing inordinate. Most notably, the extractor spring replacement was shorter and after installing it the extractor was easier to lift manually. The extractor being too tight was probably responsible for all the stovepipes. I also bent the magazine catch spring a little to help hold the magazines in better. Hopefully it will do better at the range next time.

05-27-2011, 04:02 PM	#28
rivieraranch User Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: South Florida Posts: 101 Thanks: 4 Thanked 4 Times in 4 Posts	Can you believe that I haven't been to the range since December! I visited my range today. The pistol was stovepiping after nearly every round. Then I noticed that the ejector broke off. Now I need to get a new ejector.