Asterix?

sej-gun · 01-03-2011, 03:31 PM

On one of my Luger barrels I have found what I think is an Asterix.
Does it mean that the barrel is a replacement?

reg. Jes

Stevie · 01-05-2011, 07:32 PM

Get yourself a jewlers loop..or a powerful magnifying glass..and compare that mark to the eagles proofs on the right side of the gun...thats a almost buffed out Weimer eagle/dove proof.

If the gun has it's original DWM toggle train in it..probably has a similiar eagle on the left rear of the breechbolt, by the toggle joint

sej-gun · 01-06-2011, 08:55 AM

Stevie- I have used a magnifying glass when I examine the mark. But I did not recognize the “eagle”, before some collectors make me attention to my misunderstanding. And of course I have try to compare the mark whit my “Abnahme & Beschuss stempel” schedule!
Thanks for your informative advice and explanation!

Lugerdoc · 01-06-2011, 09:58 AM

I seen this mark on a few 1941 dated factory installed PO8 orig serialized barrels. I agree that it could be a Nazi era replacement. TH

sej-gun · 01-06-2011, 11:22 AM

This is - as I see it - an interesting observation!
I notice, that the mark is on the top, not on the side of the barrel
where I think it normally is placed?
Thanks for sharing your observation whit us Tom!

Reg. Jes

sheepherder · 01-06-2011, 06:40 PM

...Oooo...Sounds like another "Mystery Writ In Steel"...

I'm interested in hearing what Don has to say...

Stevie · 01-06-2011, 09:11 PM

Check out Joe Salters website...1921 Police Luger item #15728 some so-so pics of this marking.

The proofs on this 1921 are somewhat different than your pistol but still has some Weimer doves.. I believe the barrel marking is the same..and the same as mine..you can see the eagle on the side of the toggle train too in Joe's pics.

In your pic..the tops of the wings..and the head are on the right..and the tail and legs are to the left.

Look at the Weimer dove proofs on the right side of your gun...then imagine a smaller version on the barrel. The tops of the wings are a dead givaway.

I bet if you go over to Jan Stills Gunboards forums..Weimer Lugers..and dig around some...Ron Smith had some pics of a 1920 or 1921 DWM that was near identical to mine..only much better shape. My 1920 is probably near identical to your gun

He had some really good pics up of his gun and it's markings..if you can find them.

sej-gun · 01-07-2011, 03:11 PM

Hi Stevie
At Joe´s interesting site I only can see a photo of the top-barrel that has a marking like mine, but the photo is not so sharp? I vill search on Jan Still’s (also fantastic!!)board
thanks for your kindly reference

Reg: Jes

Don M · 01-08-2011, 02:13 PM

Jes, when searching one of my old posts, I realized that I have a 1918 DWM with the same proof on the top of the barrel as yours. It is shown in the ninth photo in this post: http://forum.lugerforum.com/showthread.php?t=15243.

sej-gun · 01-09-2011, 09:13 AM

Don - it is the same marking as on my Luger
Reg. Jes

01-06-2011, 09:58 AM	#4
Lugerdoc Patron LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: POB 398 St.Charles,MO. 63302 Posts: 5,089 Thanks: 6 Thanked 736 Times in 483 Posts	I seen this mark on a few 1941 dated factory installed PO8 orig serialized barrels. I agree that it could be a Nazi era replacement. TH __________________ Tom Heller POB 398 ST.Charles, MO. 63302 Tel 636-447-3006 lugerdoc@charter.net

01-06-2011, 06:40 PM	#6
sheepherder Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: ...on the 'ol Erie Canal... Posts: 8,182 Thanks: 1,400 Thanked 4,441 Times in 2,329 Posts	...Oooo...Sounds like another "Mystery Writ In Steel"... I'm interested in hearing what Don has to say... __________________ I like my coffee the way I like my women... ...Cold and bitter...

01-08-2011, 02:13 PM	#9
Don M Patron LugerForum Patron Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Houston, TX Posts: 1,429 Thanks: 67 Thanked 292 Times in 191 Posts	Jes, when searching one of my old posts, I realized that I have a 1918 DWM with the same proof on the top of the barrel as yours. It is shown in the ninth photo in this post: http://forum.lugerforum.com/showthread.php?t=15243. __________________ Regards, Don donmaus1@aol.com Author of History Writ in Steel: German Police Markings 1900-1936 http://www.historywritinsteel.com

01-03-2011, 03:31 PM	#1
sej-gun User Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Denmark Posts: 99 Thanks: 26 Thanked 16 Times in 7 Posts	Asterix? On one of my Luger barrels I have found what I think is an Asterix. Does it mean that the barrel is a replacement? reg. Jes Attached Images

01-05-2011, 07:32 PM	#2
Stevie User Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Ok. Posts: 212 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Get yourself a jewlers loop..or a powerful magnifying glass..and compare that mark to the eagles proofs on the right side of the gun...thats a almost buffed out Weimer eagle/dove proof. If the gun has it's original DWM toggle train in it..probably has a similiar eagle on the left rear of the breechbolt, by the toggle joint

01-06-2011, 08:55 AM	#3
sej-gun User Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Denmark Posts: 99 Thanks: 26 Thanked 16 Times in 7 Posts	Stevie- I have used a magnifying glass when I examine the mark. But I did not recognize the “eagle”, before some collectors make me attention to my misunderstanding. And of course I have try to compare the mark whit my “Abnahme & Beschuss stempel” schedule! Thanks for your informative advice and explanation!

01-06-2011, 11:22 AM	#5
sej-gun User Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Denmark Posts: 99 Thanks: 26 Thanked 16 Times in 7 Posts	This is - as I see it - an interesting observation! I notice, that the mark is on the top, not on the side of the barrel where I think it normally is placed? Thanks for sharing your observation whit us Tom! Reg. Jes

01-06-2011, 09:11 PM	#7
Stevie User Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Ok. Posts: 212 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Check out Joe Salters website...1921 Police Luger item #15728 some so-so pics of this marking. The proofs on this 1921 are somewhat different than your pistol but still has some Weimer doves.. I believe the barrel marking is the same..and the same as mine..you can see the eagle on the side of the toggle train too in Joe's pics. In your pic..the tops of the wings..and the head are on the right..and the tail and legs are to the left. Look at the Weimer dove proofs on the right side of your gun...then imagine a smaller version on the barrel. The tops of the wings are a dead givaway. I bet if you go over to Jan Stills Gunboards forums..Weimer Lugers..and dig around some...Ron Smith had some pics of a 1920 or 1921 DWM that was near identical to mine..only much better shape. My 1920 is probably near identical to your gun He had some really good pics up of his gun and it's markings..if you can find them.

01-07-2011, 03:11 PM	#8
sej-gun User Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Denmark Posts: 99 Thanks: 26 Thanked 16 Times in 7 Posts	Hi Stevie At Joe´s interesting site I only can see a photo of the top-barrel that has a marking like mine, but the photo is not so sharp? I vill search on Jan Still’s (also fantastic!!)board thanks for your kindly reference Reg: Jes

01-09-2011, 09:13 AM	#10
sej-gun User Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Denmark Posts: 99 Thanks: 26 Thanked 16 Times in 7 Posts	Don - it is the same marking as on my Luger Reg. Jes