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Unread 12-08-2010, 11:33 AM   #8
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As Bill said, there was a special high power .30 luger load for the .30 luger carbines.

Since the originality of 9mm carbines is still being disputed, it would be nice to have some proof in the shape of a special high power 9mm load for carbines.

There is an interesting document from the DWM archives that mentions some experimental loads that had been cancelled. They never got beyond the experimental stage. A remark besides the cartridge 480D reads: "Karabiner ist nicht in den Handel gebraucht", which translates as "Carbine was not brought to market" / "Carbine was never sold commercially".

Does this mean that 9mm carbines are not real? No. It just means that there were no commercially marketed 9mm carbines at the time this document was written, which was around 1912-1913.

It also shows that at least there were plans to create a commercial 9mm carbine, together with a 9mm load especially made for it.

9mm expert Lewis Curtis suspects that, owing to the larger 9mm bullet weight, there was no real need for a special 9mm carbine load.

So what we really need is someone with a 9mm carbine and the urge to shoot it
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