1900 AE Luger repair

Thor · 10-26-2010, 02:29 PM

Mike B sold this Luger and the new owner contacted "Hub" (Neil Keller of Kustom Ballistics) and me for repairs to the right side. Hub did a great job on the metal filling and I am rust bluing the right side only. My camera is not focusing up close so there goes the pictures, maybe the new owner will post them if he is a member. http://forum.lugerforum.com/showthread.php?t=24623

Edward Tinker · 10-27-2010, 12:35 AM

I'd love to see it, I know which one you are talking about and it had soem dumb hole in the side or something; I am sure it is outstanding now!

Ed

John Sabato · 10-27-2010, 08:44 AM

Yes Please... new owner whoever you are, please post some photos of the repaired area. This was a fine looking pistol except for the Bubba modifications... If Neil and Ted did the repairs, it should be like new...

DHENRY · 10-27-2010, 10:16 AM

Ted, Ed and John
Yes, I'm a member, and I, too, am really anxious to see Ted's finished work.
Mike's up-close photos were pretty much spot-on, and after exploring several alternatives I put my trust in the best...Thor and Neil Keller.
The gun (even in its bolloxed-up state) was too nice to be just a plinker, although that's what I originally bought it for.
This nice piece of history...in such beautiful condition...deserved more than trips to the range.
Just as soon as it's back I'll do a detailed photo-shoot, and will post the finished results.
I'm an old-time collector (primarily Colt and S&W) of prewar revolvers, and generally walk away from any work as complicated and delicate as what was involved here.
Never have I worked with two professionals as good as Ted and Neil.
Don

DHENRY · 11-08-2010, 11:20 AM

The 1900 AE arrived (from Thor) today, and below are some photos showing the 'after' state of the pistol.
Bright morning sun, no Photoshop or artificial lighting or filters.
There's one shot of the other side of the pistol as a color-comparison.
The minor color-difference between the receiver and the frame is simply a highlight from the sun...in reality the colors match perfectly.
I've been in this hobby for about 50 years, and have dealt with most of the big-name restoration guys.
NEVER have I seen this type of job done, and NEVER have I seen such perfect work.
You've all seen the 'before' shots, so I won't repeat them.
The small areas that Neil welded and filled, and Thor refinished are so perfectly blended into the surrounding original finish that they're undetectable.
I've can not get over the transformation to this fine old pistol.
Don

Thor · 11-08-2010, 11:39 AM

Glad you are happy Don, the Luger looks pretty good all put together, a shame what had happened to it before. I am happy to help out but really Hub's welding did the trick, I have never seen any that was flawed. He is the best! It is great being part of a team that can fix these old Lugers up.

alanint · 11-08-2010, 12:26 PM

For someone who does not remember seeing the "before' photos, is there a link which allows you to view them?

Txs
Doug

Mike B · 11-08-2010, 12:27 PM

OK guys, I hope I am not stepping ahead of Don, but here are a couple of "before" pictures. This is a remarkable job done by both artist. I am willing to give Don his money back if he doesn't like the gun.

Mike

Thor · 11-08-2010, 12:30 PM

Good one Mike!

cirelaw · 11-08-2010, 12:37 PM

What a difference a Thor can make!

lfid · 11-08-2010, 12:44 PM

awesome !!!

very cool , congratulations on the perfection

Bill

chromeed · 11-08-2010, 12:48 PM

Great Job!!
Can you tell me what method of bluing DWM used in 1917 and what grit finish they used before bluing?

Hub · 11-09-2010, 12:46 PM

Hi guys, been a while since I have posted on the thread. Yea I'm still around dong a few babies now and then. Enjoy the challenges that Thor sends here now and then.

I'll try to get a couple of babies I have in the mill finished and get tem posted.

hub

Thor · 11-09-2010, 02:37 PM

Hub, I always thought the 45 GAP Baby was pretty unique and a great idea!

John Sabato · 11-09-2010, 04:07 PM

Absolutely increadible restoration job! Thanks for sharing the results with all of us.

Mike B · 11-09-2010, 04:50 PM

Greetings,
I thought I would post another picture of the "before and after" in one image. Thanks to Thor, Neil and Don for saving this wonderful piece of history. Hard to believe it is same grips in both pictures.

Mike

cirelaw · 11-10-2010, 09:00 AM

Ted, another trophy for the Luger History books! Gramps would have been proud!!

Jasta2 · 11-10-2010, 03:48 PM

Your 1900 looks GREAT! THOR restored my 1900 AE Test that someone had put a bright blue finish on it. Now it looks as original. now if I could only take some quaility pictures of it to post!
Bill

10-26-2010, 02:29 PM	#1
Thor User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Rio Rancho, New Mexico Posts: 4,583 Thanks: 958 Thanked 970 Times in 276 Posts	1900 AE Luger repair Mike B sold this Luger and the new owner contacted "Hub" (Neil Keller of Kustom Ballistics) and me for repairs to the right side. Hub did a great job on the metal filling and I am rust bluing the right side only. My camera is not focusing up close so there goes the pictures, maybe the new owner will post them if he is a member. http://forum.lugerforum.com/showthread.php?t=24623 __________________ Thor's Luger Clinic http://members.rennlist.com/lugerman/ Ted Green (Thor Yaller Boots) 725 Western Hills Dr SE, Rio Rancho, NM 87124 915-526-8925 Email thor340@aol.com ----------------------------------- John3:3 Jesus answered and said to him, "Most assuredly, I say to you, unless one is born again, he cannot see the kingdom of God." Last edited by Thor; 10-26-2010 at 02:30 PM. Reason: added link for BEFORE pictures

10-27-2010, 12:35 AM	#2
Edward Tinker Super Moderator Eternal Lifer LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: North of Spokane, WA Posts: 15,967 Thanks: 2,066 Thanked 4,596 Times in 2,117 Posts	I'd love to see it, I know which one you are talking about and it had soem dumb hole in the side or something; I am sure it is outstanding now! Ed __________________ Edward Tinker ************ Co-Author of Police Lugers - Co-Author of Simson Lugers Author of Veteran Bring Backs Vol I, Vol II, Vol III and Vol IV

10-27-2010, 08:44 AM	#3
John Sabato Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: The Capital of the Free World Posts: 10,156 Thanks: 3,003 Thanked 2,308 Times in 1,098 Posts	Yes Please... new owner whoever you are, please post some photos of the repaired area. This was a fine looking pistol except for the Bubba modifications... If Neil and Ted did the repairs, it should be like new... __________________ regards, -John S "...We hold these truths to be self-evident that ALL men are created EQUAL *and are endowed by their Creator* with certain UNALIENABLE* rights, and among these are life, LIBERTY, and the pursuit of happiness..."*

11-08-2010, 11:20 AM	#5
DHENRY User Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Northeast Ohio Posts: 16 Thanks: 3 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	It's back ! The 1900 AE arrived (from Thor) today, and below are some photos showing the 'after' state of the pistol. Bright morning sun, no Photoshop or artificial lighting or filters. There's one shot of the other side of the pistol as a color-comparison. The minor color-difference between the receiver and the frame is simply a highlight from the sun...in reality the colors match perfectly. I've been in this hobby for about 50 years, and have dealt with most of the big-name restoration guys. NEVER have I seen this type of job done, and NEVER have I seen such perfect work. You've all seen the 'before' shots, so I won't repeat them. The small areas that Neil welded and filled, and Thor refinished are so perfectly blended into the surrounding original finish that they're undetectable. I've can not get over the transformation to this fine old pistol. Don Last edited by DHENRY; 11-08-2010 at 03:41 PM.

11-08-2010, 11:39 AM	#6
Thor User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Rio Rancho, New Mexico Posts: 4,583 Thanks: 958 Thanked 970 Times in 276 Posts	Glad you are happy Don, the Luger looks pretty good all put together, a shame what had happened to it before. I am happy to help out but really Hub's welding did the trick, I have never seen any that was flawed. He is the best! It is great being part of a team that can fix these old Lugers up. __________________ Thor's Luger Clinic http://members.rennlist.com/lugerman/ Ted Green (Thor Yaller Boots) 725 Western Hills Dr SE, Rio Rancho, NM 87124 915-526-8925 Email thor340@aol.com ----------------------------------- John3:3 Jesus answered and said to him, "Most assuredly, I say to you, unless one is born again, he cannot see the kingdom of God."

10-27-2010, 10:16 AM	#4
DHENRY User Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Northeast Ohio Posts: 16 Thanks: 3 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Ted, Ed and John Yes, I'm a member, and I, too, am really anxious to see Ted's finished work. Mike's up-close photos were pretty much spot-on, and after exploring several alternatives I put my trust in the best...Thor and Neil Keller. The gun (even in its bolloxed-up state) was too nice to be just a plinker, although that's what I originally bought it for. This nice piece of history...in such beautiful condition...deserved more than trips to the range. Just as soon as it's back I'll do a detailed photo-shoot, and will post the finished results. I'm an old-time collector (primarily Colt and S&W) of prewar revolvers, and generally walk away from any work as complicated and delicate as what was involved here. Never have I worked with two professionals as good as Ted and Neil. Don

11-08-2010, 12:26 PM	#7
alanint User Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Marco Island, Florida Posts: 4,867 Thanks: 1,685 Thanked 1,917 Times in 1,193 Posts	For someone who does not remember seeing the "before' photos, is there a link which allows you to view them? Txs Doug

11-08-2010, 12:27 PM	#8
Mike B Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: South Louisiana Posts: 979 Thanks: 1 Thanked 272 Times in 100 Posts	Before photos OK guys, I hope I am not stepping ahead of Don, but here are a couple of "before" pictures. This is a remarkable job done by both artist. I am willing to give Don his money back if he doesn't like the gun. Mike Attached Thumbnails

11-08-2010, 12:30 PM	#9
Thor User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Rio Rancho, New Mexico Posts: 4,583 Thanks: 958 Thanked 970 Times in 276 Posts	Good one Mike! __________________ Thor's Luger Clinic http://members.rennlist.com/lugerman/ Ted Green (Thor Yaller Boots) 725 Western Hills Dr SE, Rio Rancho, NM 87124 915-526-8925 Email thor340@aol.com ----------------------------------- John3:3 Jesus answered and said to him, "Most assuredly, I say to you, unless one is born again, he cannot see the kingdom of God."

11-08-2010, 12:37 PM	#10
cirelaw Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: PORT ST LUCIE, FLORIDA Posts: 12,216 Thanks: 6,209 Thanked 4,138 Times in 2,176 Posts	What a difference a Thor can make!

11-08-2010, 12:44 PM	#11
lfid Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Wichita, KS USA Posts: 453 Thanks: 573 Thanked 96 Times in 53 Posts	awesome !!! very cool , congratulations on the perfection Bill

11-08-2010, 12:48 PM	#12
chromeed User Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: North Georgia Posts: 81 Thanks: 1 Thanked 27 Times in 9 Posts	Great Job!! Can you tell me what method of bluing DWM used in 1917 and what grit finish they used before bluing?

11-09-2010, 12:46 PM	#13
Hub User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Decatur, IN Posts: 61 Thanks: 0 Thanked 3 Times in 3 Posts	just stuff Hi guys, been a while since I have posted on the thread. Yea I'm still around dong a few babies now and then. Enjoy the challenges that Thor sends here now and then. I'll try to get a couple of babies I have in the mill finished and get tem posted. hub

11-09-2010, 02:37 PM	#14
Thor User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Rio Rancho, New Mexico Posts: 4,583 Thanks: 958 Thanked 970 Times in 276 Posts	Hub, I always thought the 45 GAP Baby was pretty unique and a great idea! __________________ Thor's Luger Clinic http://members.rennlist.com/lugerman/ Ted Green (Thor Yaller Boots) 725 Western Hills Dr SE, Rio Rancho, NM 87124 915-526-8925 Email thor340@aol.com ----------------------------------- John3:3 Jesus answered and said to him, "Most assuredly, I say to you, unless one is born again, he cannot see the kingdom of God."

11-09-2010, 04:07 PM	#15
John Sabato Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: The Capital of the Free World Posts: 10,156 Thanks: 3,003 Thanked 2,308 Times in 1,098 Posts	Absolutely increadible restoration job! Thanks for sharing the results with all of us. __________________ regards, -John S "...We hold these truths to be self-evident that ALL men are created EQUAL *and are endowed by their Creator* with certain UNALIENABLE* rights, and among these are life, LIBERTY, and the pursuit of happiness..."*

11-09-2010, 04:50 PM	#16
Mike B Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: South Louisiana Posts: 979 Thanks: 1 Thanked 272 Times in 100 Posts	another before and after Greetings, I thought I would post another picture of the "before and after" in one image. Thanks to Thor, Neil and Don for saving this wonderful piece of history. Hard to believe it is same grips in both pictures. Mike Attached Thumbnails

11-10-2010, 09:00 AM	#17
cirelaw Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: PORT ST LUCIE, FLORIDA Posts: 12,216 Thanks: 6,209 Thanked 4,138 Times in 2,176 Posts	Ted, another trophy for the Luger History books! Gramps would have been proud!!

11-10-2010, 03:48 PM	#18
Jasta2 User Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Lakeland, Fl. Posts: 514 Thanks: 349 Thanked 101 Times in 52 Posts	Your 1900 looks GREAT! THOR restored my 1900 AE Test that someone had put a bright blue finish on it. Now it looks as original. now if I could only take some quaility pictures of it to post! Bill