Luger id/info please

Vlim · 04-30-2010, 09:46 AM

In the original DWM top, the retaining pin for the rear toggle link pin appears to be missing. This little pin holds the toggle pin in place, without the retaining pin, it can work loose during shooting (which you don't want

).

NYCMedic · 04-30-2010, 11:45 AM

Thank you both for your replies!
Collectible sounds good. If it was re-issued for WWII would there be any additional markings? I don't know which war the US GI served in, but I think it was WWII. Although, he did pass around twenty years ago, so who knows... I'll see if my friend can clarify some of this.
I will take a closer look at where the pin should be when we get together to clean it. Could it be that the pin is there, just pushed farther in? I think I would have noticed a missing pin.
Any input regarding the holster?
Also, is this chambered in 9mm or .30 Luger?

Norme · 04-30-2010, 01:12 PM

Hi Ari, It seems like you have a complete, desirable, 1st Issue, plus that Mauser top. My guess is that the barrel of the 1st Issue is in such poor shape, that the previous owner procured the newer top so that he could shoot the gun without changing the barrel. The missing pin that Vlim is referring to is shown in the enclosed photo. Replacing it is no big deal since it is an unnumbered part. Regards, Norm

RichSr · 04-30-2010, 02:15 PM

I believe the collector's value will be negatively impacted by the mis-matched takedown lever, but I defer to the experts here.

klaus 3338 · 04-30-2010, 03:32 PM

It is a nice Luger and it was issued to the Bavarian 2. Chevaulegers regiment Taxis first escadron. This cavalry regiment was stationed in Regensburg and saw action. The first escadron was part of the 11. Bavarian Infantry Division during the Great War and saw action on the eastern front 1915 until mid 1916 and than on the western front.
The added photos are showing another Luger of this regiment and a second holster of this regiment.
Thanks for sharing!
Regards Klaus

NYCMedic · 05-03-2010, 08:14 PM

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Originally Posted by klaus 3338

It is a nice Luger and it was issued to the Bavarian 2. Chevaulegers regiment Taxis first escadron. This cavalry regiment was stationed in Regensburg and saw action. The first escadron was part of the 11. Bavarian Infantry Division during the Great War and saw action on the eastern front 1915 until mid 1916 and than on the western front.
The added photos are showing another Luger of this regiment and a second holster of this regiment.
Thanks for sharing!
Regards Klaus

Great pictures and history! Thanks.

Quote:

Originally Posted by RichSr

I believe the collector's value will be negatively impacted by the mis-matched takedown lever, but I defer to the experts here.

I was wondering why it had 58 stamped on it.

Any comments on the holster or correct caliber?

Also, I checked and the soldier fought in WWII and brought this luger and a browning 1922 back with him. Both had similar shoulder holsters and spare mags.

NYCMedic · 05-03-2010, 08:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vlim

In the original DWM top, the retaining pin for the rear toggle link pin appears to be missing. This little pin holds the toggle pin in place, without the retaining pin, it can work loose during shooting (which you don't want

).

On closer inspection (after removing copious amounts of cosmoline) you are correct! Where can I find such a pin?
Thanks.

04-30-2010, 11:45 AM	#2
NYCMedic User Join Date: Apr 2010 Posts: 5 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Thank you both for your replies! Collectible sounds good. If it was re-issued for WWII would there be any additional markings? I don't know which war the US GI served in, but I think it was WWII. Although, he did pass around twenty years ago, so who knows... I'll see if my friend can clarify some of this. I will take a closer look at where the pin should be when we get together to clean it. Could it be that the pin is there, just pushed farther in? I think I would have noticed a missing pin. Any input regarding the holster? Also, is this chambered in 9mm or .30 Luger? Last edited by NYCMedic; 04-30-2010 at 12:39 PM.

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Norme Always A Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Colorado Posts: 2,417 Thanks: 226 Thanked 2,607 Times in 933 Posts	Hi Ari, It seems like you have a complete, desirable, 1st Issue, plus that Mauser top. My guess is that the barrel of the 1st Issue is in such poor shape, that the previous owner procured the newer top so that he could shoot the gun without changing the barrel. The missing pin that Vlim is referring to is shown in the enclosed photo. Replacing it is no big deal since it is an unnumbered part. Regards, Norm Attached Thumbnails

04-30-2010, 02:15 PM	#4
RichSr User Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: West Texas Posts: 128 Thanks: 154 Thanked 54 Times in 36 Posts	I believe the collector's value will be negatively impacted by the mis-matched takedown lever, but I defer to the experts here. __________________ Rich

04-30-2010, 03:32 PM	#5
klaus 3338 User Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Germany Posts: 519 Thanks: 0 Thanked 417 Times in 162 Posts	It is a nice Luger and it was issued to the Bavarian 2. Chevaulegers regiment Taxis first escadron. This cavalry regiment was stationed in Regensburg and saw action. The first escadron was part of the 11. Bavarian Infantry Division during the Great War and saw action on the eastern front 1915 until mid 1916 and than on the western front. The added photos are showing another Luger of this regiment and a second holster of this regiment. Thanks for sharing! Regards Klaus Attached Thumbnails Attached Images

04-30-2010, 09:46 AM	#1
Vlim Moderator Lifetime LugerForum Patron Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Europe Posts: 5,053 Thanks: 1,036 Thanked 3,990 Times in 1,205 Posts	In the original DWM top, the retaining pin for the rear toggle link pin appears to be missing. This little pin holds the toggle pin in place, without the retaining pin, it can work loose during shooting (which you don't want ).