Is there a Broomhandle Doctor in the Haus? - Runs Good!

alvin · 03-13-2010, 06:30 PM

35XXX, prewar, so it's a so called "Early Small Ring" with long extractor. Assume it's German, if not, everything is possible. Initial feeling was rocker plunger was not functional so the trigger did not disconnect after firing. But you mentioned the weird behavior of "half-cocking" which confuses big time. What was blocking the hammer from dropping?? On this thing, only two pieces of steel could block the hammer, safety level and sear. Temporily put sear aside, because sear does not offer "half cocking" function.

In normal case, if safety level is pushed up, the hammer cannot be opened at all. Or, hammer already cocked, then safety level at up position will block hammer from dropping. But this one is hard to say because it's not an original gun. Anything is possible. Was the safety on?

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[Edit] If you post a picture of the gun, probably we can help with some clue. Otherwise, it sounds like a 1930.

azlaw · 03-14-2010, 12:54 AM

I think it is an early prewar commercial from the little I have been able to study the matter. Here are some pics that might help, some of which show the problem with the hammer apparently failing to engage the sear, or as you say the trigger failing to disengage. Otherwise the gun works fine.

I paid attention to your plunger suggestion. I am using Titegroup, which is a pretty quick powder, a lot quicker than HS6 - gives a quicker pressure spike than the older powders the guns were designed around. Have had functioning problems with too fast a powder in a Steyr-Hahn once and had to go to HS6, but have not heard of this problem in Brooms.

Does the disconnector detail look ok to you? That spring barely catches the ledge of it, and the top is a very loose fit.

03-13-2010, 06:30 PM	#1
alvin User Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: US Posts: 3,843 Thanks: 132 Thanked 729 Times in 438 Posts	35XXX, prewar, so it's a so called "Early Small Ring" with long extractor. Assume it's German, if not, everything is possible. Initial feeling was rocker plunger was not functional so the trigger did not disconnect after firing. But you mentioned the weird behavior of "half-cocking" which confuses big time. What was blocking the hammer from dropping?? On this thing, only two pieces of steel could block the hammer, safety level and sear. Temporily put sear aside, because sear does not offer "half cocking" function. In normal case, if safety level is pushed up, the hammer cannot be opened at all. Or, hammer already cocked, then safety level at up position will block hammer from dropping. But this one is hard to say because it's not an original gun. Anything is possible. Was the safety on? === [Edit] If you post a picture of the gun, probably we can help with some clue. Otherwise, it sounds like a 1930.

03-14-2010, 12:54 AM	#2
azlaw User Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Tucson, AZ Posts: 207 Thanks: 1 Thanked 4 Times in 4 Posts	I think it is an early prewar commercial from the little I have been able to study the matter. Here are some pics that might help, some of which show the problem with the hammer apparently failing to engage the sear, or as you say the trigger failing to disengage. Otherwise the gun works fine. I paid attention to your plunger suggestion. I am using Titegroup, which is a pretty quick powder, a lot quicker than HS6 - gives a quicker pressure spike than the older powders the guns were designed around. Have had functioning problems with too fast a powder in a Steyr-Hahn once and had to go to HS6, but have not heard of this problem in Brooms. Does the disconnector detail look ok to you? That spring barely catches the ledge of it, and the top is a very loose fit.