New Member - Alphabet Commercial date?

mrerick · 12-21-2009, 12:49 PM

Hi,

After years of wanting a Luger P-08, I finally connected with a nice one at a local gun show.

It's an alphabet commercial s/n 70xx m marked "made in germany" on the right receiver.

Good halos where the serial is stamped on the barrel and all matching with about 95% blue and decent straw (don't quite know how to rate it...) and strong sharp bore.

I checked Dwight's database, but can't determine the born on date. Is this from 1924 or 1925?

Also, caliber isn't stamped anywhere, but it looks like .30 Luger (7.65x21 parabellum). Any good way to verify this? Other than 9mm parabellum, were there any other cartridges near the size of the .30 Luger that lugers were chambered in?

Thanks for your help and work on this board!

Marc

alanint · 12-21-2009, 01:46 PM

The rule of thumb for caliber determination around here is to take a #2 pencil. If it slides down the bore it is a 9MM, if it does not it is a .30

FNorm · 12-21-2009, 02:57 PM

From STILL'S WEIMAR AND EARLY LUGERS, an 'M' series would have been the last part of 1923 to the first half of 1924, so if they made at a steady rate, about March.

FN

mrerick · 12-21-2009, 06:12 PM

Thanks for the information and updates! DOM in Spring of 1924... I wonder what was happening in Europe and the rest of the world then....

MArc

mrerick · 12-27-2009, 10:53 AM

Here are some pictures:

Is it possible to get a condition estimate from these photos?

Thanks, Marc

Ron Wood · 12-27-2009, 11:11 AM

Percentage of finish is a subjective call and I am not very good at it. But I will say that it is a pretty nice looking Luger. Looks like your scored well on your first acquisition. Now you have the bug, one Luger is never enough!

newluger · 12-27-2009, 01:47 PM

For years I have been interested in buying a Luger. So about 7 months ago I decided to get serious and buy one. I look at two which were a 1916 Erfurt and a 1921 DWM-both 9mm. I was so taken by them, I adopted both. After reading and learning more about their potential value, even after shooting both, I decided to buy a third just as a shooter. I will try and upload photos of the DWM, and let the experts tell me what I have. Even though I have only been a member of this forum for a few months, you have taught me much.

I hope that these photos come thru.

Newluger

12-21-2009, 12:49 PM	#1
mrerick Super Moderator - Patron LugerForum Life Patron Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Eastern North Carolina, USA Posts: 3,907 Thanks: 1,374 Thanked 3,108 Times in 1,509 Posts	New Member - Alphabet Commercial date? Hi, After years of wanting a Luger P-08, I finally connected with a nice one at a local gun show. It's an alphabet commercial s/n 70xx m marked "made in germany" on the right receiver. Good halos where the serial is stamped on the barrel and all matching with about 95% blue and decent straw (don't quite know how to rate it...) and strong sharp bore. I checked Dwight's database, but can't determine the born on date. Is this from 1924 or 1925? Also, caliber isn't stamped anywhere, but it looks like .30 Luger (7.65x21 parabellum). Any good way to verify this? Other than 9mm parabellum, were there any other cartridges near the size of the .30 Luger that lugers were chambered in? Thanks for your help and work on this board! Marc

12-21-2009, 02:57 PM	#3
FNorm Patron LugerForum Patron Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Colorado Posts: 978 Thanks: 68 Thanked 127 Times in 108 Posts	From STILL'S WEIMAR AND EARLY LUGERS, an 'M' series would have been the last part of 1923 to the first half of 1924, so if they made at a steady rate, about March. FN Last edited by FNorm; 12-21-2009 at 05:42 PM. Reason: add

12-27-2009, 11:11 AM	#6
Ron Wood Moderator 2010 LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Santa Teresa New Mexico just outside of the West Texas town of El Paso Posts: 7,005 Thanks: 1,087 Thanked 5,139 Times in 1,689 Posts	Percentage of finish is a subjective call and I am not very good at it. But I will say that it is a pretty nice looking Luger. Looks like your scored well on your first acquisition. Now you have the bug, one Luger is never enough! __________________ If it's made after 1918...it's a reproduction

12-27-2009, 01:47 PM	#7
newluger User Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Franklin Tennessee Posts: 119 Thanks: 22 Thanked 10 Times in 7 Posts	My Luger For years I have been interested in buying a Luger. So about 7 months ago I decided to get serious and buy one. I look at two which were a 1916 Erfurt and a 1921 DWM-both 9mm. I was so taken by them, I adopted both. After reading and learning more about their potential value, even after shooting both, I decided to buy a third just as a shooter. I will try and upload photos of the DWM, and let the experts tell me what I have. Even though I have only been a member of this forum for a few months, you have taught me much. I hope that these photos come thru. Newluger Attached Thumbnails

12-21-2009, 01:46 PM	#2
alanint User Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Marco Island, Florida Posts: 4,867 Thanks: 1,685 Thanked 1,916 Times in 1,192 Posts	The rule of thumb for caliber determination around here is to take a #2 pencil. If it slides down the bore it is a 9MM, if it does not it is a .30

12-21-2009, 06:12 PM	#4
mrerick Super Moderator - Patron LugerForum Life Patron Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Eastern North Carolina, USA Posts: 3,907 Thanks: 1,374 Thanked 3,108 Times in 1,509 Posts	Thanks for the information and updates! DOM in Spring of 1924... I wonder what was happening in Europe and the rest of the world then.... MArc

12-27-2009, 10:53 AM	#5
mrerick Super Moderator - Patron LugerForum Life Patron Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Eastern North Carolina, USA Posts: 3,907 Thanks: 1,374 Thanked 3,108 Times in 1,509 Posts	Here are some pictures: Is it possible to get a condition estimate from these photos? Thanks, Marc