Trying to get info on 2 Lugers

Bigcountry313 · 12-12-2009, 09:06 AM

Trying to get some info on 2 Lugers for a friend:

1st one:
a DWM, but no 1918/1920 markings. Has a 3 didget serial number, with last 2 stamped on all parts.
Has what I can find out is a German "Nitro" mark on 2 places.
an "N" with a mark over it and what looks like a q or o stamped under the barrell. No other markins I have noted.

2nd one:
also a DWM but has 1918/1920 stamped on the receiver. has 8.82 stamped under the bbl, 4 proof marks on rt side of receiver and on the grip strap, ( 4/A.R. 5.51).

Any info you may have or could tell about them would be helpful and more than I have here.

Thanks, Rob

Edward Tinker · 12-12-2009, 10:49 AM

Rob, a few misconceptions here.

See below:[quote=Bigcountry313;170350]Trying to get some info on 2 Lugers for a friend:

1st one:
a DWM, but no 1918/1920 markings. This is actually a marking showing two things, 1918 is the year of manufacture, the 1920 is a reichwehr property stamping; see FAQ for more info. Has a 3 didget serial number, with last 2 stamped on all parts. Yes, this is normal.
Has what I can find out is a German "Nitro" mark on 2 places. Commercial markings
an "N" with a mark over it and what looks like a q or o stamped under the barrell. No other markins I have noted.

2nd one:
also a DWM but has 1918/1920 stamped on the receiver. As above
has 8.82 stamped under the bbl, This is the land to land acceptance marking (it was made within tolernaces)

4 proof marks on rt side of receiver expected and on the grip strap, ( 4/A.R. 5.51). This is a unit marking

MFC · 12-13-2009, 01:49 AM

Rob,
The first one with no markings on the chamber is probably a DWM Alphabet commercial, made between 1925 and 1927 depending on the S# and suffix "q or o". It's more than likely a 30 cal.
The Crown/N proofs should be on the left side of the receiver, barrel, breechblock, and sometimes on the forward toggle.

Bigcountry313 · 12-13-2009, 08:04 PM

Thanks for the information, very helpful. I was never a big fan of lugers, these were the first 2 I have had my hands on. They are very well made and the quality seems to be top notch.

BC

12-12-2009, 09:06 AM	#1
Bigcountry313 User Join Date: Dec 2009 Posts: 5 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Trying to get info on 2 Lugers Trying to get some info on 2 Lugers for a friend: 1st one: a DWM, but no 1918/1920 markings. Has a 3 didget serial number, with last 2 stamped on all parts. Has what I can find out is a German "Nitro" mark on 2 places. an "N" with a mark over it and what looks like a q or o stamped under the barrell. No other markins I have noted. 2nd one: also a DWM but has 1918/1920 stamped on the receiver. has 8.82 stamped under the bbl, 4 proof marks on rt side of receiver and on the grip strap, ( 4/A.R. 5.51). Any info you may have or could tell about them would be helpful and more than I have here. Thanks, Rob

12-12-2009, 10:49 AM	#2
Edward Tinker Super Moderator Eternal Lifer LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: North of Spokane, WA Posts: 15,915 Thanks: 1,989 Thanked 4,506 Times in 2,080 Posts	Rob, a few misconceptions here. See below:[quote=Bigcountry313;170350]Trying to get some info on 2 Lugers for a friend: 1st one: a DWM, but no 1918/1920 markings. This is actually a marking showing two things, 1918 is the year of manufacture, the 1920 is a reichwehr property stamping; see FAQ for more info. Has a 3 didget serial number, with last 2 stamped on all parts. Yes, this is normal. Has what I can find out is a German "Nitro" mark on 2 places. Commercial markings an "N" with a mark over it and what looks like a q or o stamped under the barrell. No other markins I have noted. 2nd one: also a DWM but has 1918/1920 stamped on the receiver. As above has 8.82 stamped under the bbl, This is the land to land acceptance marking (it was made within tolernaces) 4 proof marks on rt side of receiver expected and on the grip strap, ( 4/A.R. 5.51). This is a unit marking __________________ Edward Tinker ************ Co-Author of Police Lugers - Co-Author of Simson Lugers Author of Veteran Bring Backs Vol I, Vol II, Vol III and Vol IV

12-13-2009, 01:49 AM	#3
MFC User Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Louisiana Posts: 1,237 Thanks: 183 Thanked 281 Times in 162 Posts	Rob, The first one with no markings on the chamber is probably a DWM Alphabet commercial, made between 1925 and 1927 depending on the S# and suffix "q or o". It's more than likely a 30 cal. The Crown/N proofs should be on the left side of the receiver, barrel, breechblock, and sometimes on the forward toggle. __________________ Mike C.

12-13-2009, 08:04 PM	#4
Bigcountry313 User Join Date: Dec 2009 Posts: 5 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Thanks for the information, very helpful. I was never a big fan of lugers, these were the first 2 I have had my hands on. They are very well made and the quality seems to be top notch. BC