Death's Head SS " Definitive Proof " ?

Ron Smith · 11-28-2009, 10:33 AM

http://shop.pre98.com/product.sc?pro...&categoryId=21

"In 97% original condition with a matching mag and excellent bore, we have a very rare DWM sneak Wiemar Police Luger that was reworked for SS use. It is believed that these guns were reworked in 1940 for SS use in the concentration camps that were expanding at the time. This was originally a DWM sneak Luger with Schutz Polizei Stettin markings which were later X'd out. The gun does bear an SS rework cartouche on the sear bar. While there was some early speculation that these guns were WW1 flame thrower unit marked, this has not turned out to be the case, and a definitive SS association has clearly been established. If you collect SS items, this is a very rare and unique chance to obtain a rare weapon actually proven to have been used by them."

His description of a DH "Sneak" Luger he sold. Where is this "definitive" proof of SS association documented? Has anyone seen it?

It looks like an Alphabet Commercial purchased for police issue to Schutzpolizei Stettin, with bogus markings added. 1929 BKIW (sneak) Lugers are all in the s,t,u suffix range. IMO, someone took a $3500 dive.

I think this Luger was floating around GB with a similar claim, not long ago.

pipeman45 · 11-28-2009, 03:11 PM

But Ron, It's definitive proof.

You are not suppose to question definitive proof

Ron Smith · 11-28-2009, 03:18 PM

Hi Dave,

I reckon...

Don M · 11-28-2009, 04:17 PM

Ugliest TK I have ever seen!

sheepherder · 11-28-2009, 05:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pipeman45

But Ron, It's definitive proof.

You are not suppose to question definitive proof

+ 1

He wouldn't be allowed to print it if it weren't true...

Ron Smith · 11-28-2009, 05:33 PM

"Ugliest TK I have ever seen!"

Don, I agree, it looks like "Franken Berry".

Ron

Edward Tinker · 11-28-2009, 08:56 PM

He must not read the same books that I do. I have not read anywhere (except one source) that SS markings are real on lugers....

Not talking deathheads, but SS markings....

Ed

11-28-2009, 10:33 AM	#1
Ron Smith User Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Orygun Posts: 4,243 Thanks: 118 Thanked 245 Times in 150 Posts	Death's Head SS " Definitive Proof " ? http://shop.pre98.com/product.sc?pro...&categoryId=21 "In 97% original condition with a matching mag and excellent bore, we have a very rare DWM sneak Wiemar Police Luger that was reworked for SS use. It is believed that these guns were reworked in 1940 for SS use in the concentration camps that were expanding at the time. This was originally a DWM sneak Luger with Schutz Polizei Stettin markings which were later X'd out. The gun does bear an SS rework cartouche on the sear bar. While there was some early speculation that these guns were WW1 flame thrower unit marked, this has not turned out to be the case, and a definitive SS association has clearly been established. If you collect SS items, this is a very rare and unique chance to obtain a rare weapon actually proven to have been used by them." His description of a DH "Sneak" Luger he sold. Where is this "definitive" proof of SS association documented? Has anyone seen it? It looks like an Alphabet Commercial purchased for police issue to Schutzpolizei Stettin, with bogus markings added. 1929 BKIW (sneak) Lugers are all in the s,t,u suffix range. IMO, someone took a $3500 dive. I think this Luger was floating around GB with a similar claim, not long ago. __________________ I Still Need DWM side plate #49... if anyone runs across a nice one. What ~Rudyard Kipling~ said... Last edited by Ron Smith; 11-28-2009 at 11:58 PM.

11-28-2009, 03:11 PM	#2
pipeman45 User Join Date: May 2004 Location: Kentucky Posts: 539 Thanks: 0 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post	But Ron, It's definitive proof. You are not suppose to question definitive proof __________________ Dave

11-28-2009, 03:18 PM	#3
Ron Smith User Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Orygun Posts: 4,243 Thanks: 118 Thanked 245 Times in 150 Posts	Hi Dave, I reckon... __________________ I Still Need DWM side plate #49... if anyone runs across a nice one. What ~Rudyard Kipling~ said...

11-28-2009, 04:17 PM	#4
Don M Patron LugerForum Patron Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Houston, TX Posts: 1,429 Thanks: 67 Thanked 292 Times in 191 Posts	Ugliest TK I have ever seen! __________________ Regards, Don donmaus1@aol.com Author of History Writ in Steel: German Police Markings 1900-1936 http://www.historywritinsteel.com

11-28-2009, 05:33 PM	#6
Ron Smith User Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Orygun Posts: 4,243 Thanks: 118 Thanked 245 Times in 150 Posts	"Ugliest TK I have ever seen!" Don, I agree, it looks like "Franken Berry". Ron __________________ I Still Need DWM side plate #49... if anyone runs across a nice one. What ~Rudyard Kipling~ said...

11-28-2009, 08:56 PM	#7
Edward Tinker Super Moderator Eternal Lifer LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: North of Spokane, WA Posts: 15,920 Thanks: 2,000 Thanked 4,511 Times in 2,083 Posts	He must not read the same books that I do. I have not read anywhere (except one source) that SS markings are real on lugers.... Not talking deathheads, but SS markings.... Ed __________________ Edward Tinker ************ Co-Author of Police Lugers - Co-Author of Simson Lugers Author of Veteran Bring Backs Vol I, Vol II, Vol III and Vol IV