Good news/Bad news

jetteraf · 08-05-2009, 10:57 PM

So, examining the Luger that I purchased from this thread the good news is that the finish appears to be about 98%, is not in the interior of the frame, and in the right light, it shows evidence of oxidation and browning that are normally invisible to the naked eye. Not having held a piece in this nice of a condition before, I do have some questions.

When were the various stamps applied during the manufacturing process? The marks are crisp and halos are present on the barrel s/n, and many of the individually numbered parts, but but other parts look like they were stamped before final polishing. The eagle markings on the breach block and barrel, and the chamber date particularly look like they have been polished over.

The finish is somewhat satin in character with evidence of brush or file marks in some places, such as the sides of the receiver ears where you normally see machine marks. The only parts I would call polished are the strawed pieces. There is the occasional little dent or "dimple" like that seen in my first thread in various places under the finish. A new Kel-Tec I have had similar marks. I always thought it looked like they let the parts rattle around in boxes before assembly, and they picked up some dings.

The bad news is that it has a "million dollar chip" that has been reglued. It's very hard to spot with the grips on the gun, but back doesn't line up quite so well. So, how much does this devalue the gun?

policeluger · 08-05-2009, 11:03 PM

Still I must say a little high, and now with a poor repair chip, just not the bargin one would hope for.....on the other hand if you like the gun, money is not really that big a deal....enjoy and don't worry over it.....

Edward Tinker · 08-05-2009, 11:16 PM

Some folks will tell you that the million dollar chip will cost you $50 or more in a sale.

I prefer them NOT chipped, but for goodness sakes; jeezzzzz. In other words, its just a chip and not that noticible and if yours is fixed, that much the better....

Ed

policeluger · 08-06-2009, 12:39 AM

I'm with Ed here...

wlyon · 08-06-2009, 01:11 AM

We collect military rifles with dimples, gouges etc with no problem but let a luger have a chipped grip and look out. Come on guys these lugers are old, used by the military and many built in wartime conditions. Let them look used since they were. Bill

08-05-2009, 10:57 PM	#1
jetteraf User Join Date: Aug 2002 Posts: 14 Thanks: 1 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post	Good news/Bad news So, examining the Luger that I purchased from this thread the good news is that the finish appears to be about 98%, is not in the interior of the frame, and in the right light, it shows evidence of oxidation and browning that are normally invisible to the naked eye. Not having held a piece in this nice of a condition before, I do have some questions. When were the various stamps applied during the manufacturing process? The marks are crisp and halos are present on the barrel s/n, and many of the individually numbered parts, but but other parts look like they were stamped before final polishing. The eagle markings on the breach block and barrel, and the chamber date particularly look like they have been polished over. The finish is somewhat satin in character with evidence of brush or file marks in some places, such as the sides of the receiver ears where you normally see machine marks. The only parts I would call polished are the strawed pieces. There is the occasional little dent or "dimple" like that seen in my first thread in various places under the finish. A new Kel-Tec I have had similar marks. I always thought it looked like they let the parts rattle around in boxes before assembly, and they picked up some dings. The bad news is that it has a "million dollar chip" that has been reglued. It's very hard to spot with the grips on the gun, but back doesn't line up quite so well. So, how much does this devalue the gun?

08-05-2009, 11:16 PM	#3
Edward Tinker Super Moderator Eternal Lifer LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: North of Spokane, WA Posts: 15,916 Thanks: 1,992 Thanked 4,507 Times in 2,081 Posts	Some folks will tell you that the million dollar chip will cost you $50 or more in a sale. I prefer them NOT chipped, but for goodness sakes; jeezzzzz. In other words, its just a chip and not that noticible and if yours is fixed, that much the better.... Ed __________________ Edward Tinker ************ Co-Author of Police Lugers - Co-Author of Simson Lugers Author of Veteran Bring Backs Vol I, Vol II, Vol III and Vol IV

08-06-2009, 01:11 AM	#5
wlyon Lifer 2X Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: May 2005 Location: Somewhere in Montana Posts: 2,619 Thanks: 3,144 Thanked 2,531 Times in 943 Posts	We collect military rifles with dimples, gouges etc with no problem but let a luger have a chipped grip and look out. Come on guys these lugers are old, used by the military and many built in wartime conditions. Let them look used since they were. Bill __________________ Bill Lyon

08-05-2009, 11:03 PM	#2
policeluger RIP Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Ca. Posts: 2,141 Thanks: 8 Thanked 89 Times in 54 Posts	Still I must say a little high, and now with a poor repair chip, just not the bargin one would hope for.....on the other hand if you like the gun, money is not really that big a deal....enjoy and don't worry over it.....

08-06-2009, 12:39 AM	#4
policeluger RIP Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Ca. Posts: 2,141 Thanks: 8 Thanked 89 Times in 54 Posts	I'm with Ed here...