How can I get my money back?

junglejim · 08-05-2009, 01:53 PM

Postino, If you are referring to the first picture of a "lugerman" carbine, I have yet to receive the gun. Hopefully, any day now. It is a picture of my completed gun, and he was waiting for my final payment before sending the gun. It should be here any day (fingers crossed!). It is very similar to a 1920 commercial carbine, but not exact. Yes, there is no sight on the rear toggle, only the one like a luger carbine that is on the barrel. It supposedly shoots great on Winchester ammo. I don't know if it has a recoil assist spring like the originals.

In the second set of pictures (John Martz carbine), the configuration is identical to a 1902 American Eagle Carbine with the exception of the 16" barrel and the patented Martz Toggle Release. The p38 carbine is a copy of nothing as they never existed. They also have been tuned to Winchester ammo by the builder. By the way, John Martz's knowledge of metallergy is so acute that he was able to produce weapons like the P-38 carbine and leave them "in the white" without evidence of where metal has been added or where welding has occurred. All the original lettering on both guns are crisp and clear. No evidence of buffing whatsoever. Both guns pictured are without any finish of any kind, just a special treatment to the metal to prevent rusting. Both guns were created over 25+ years ago, and have had no special care. There are no signs of deterioration.

08-05-2009, 01:53 PM	#16
junglejim User Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Ohio Posts: 42 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Postino, If you are referring to the first picture of a "lugerman" carbine, I have yet to receive the gun. Hopefully, any day now. It is a picture of my completed gun, and he was waiting for my final payment before sending the gun. It should be here any day (fingers crossed!). It is very similar to a 1920 commercial carbine, but not exact. Yes, there is no sight on the rear toggle, only the one like a luger carbine that is on the barrel. It supposedly shoots great on Winchester ammo. I don't know if it has a recoil assist spring like the originals. In the second set of pictures (John Martz carbine), the configuration is identical to a 1902 American Eagle Carbine with the exception of the 16" barrel and the patented Martz Toggle Release. The p38 carbine is a copy of nothing as they never existed. They also have been tuned to Winchester ammo by the builder. By the way, John Martz's knowledge of metallergy is so acute that he was able to produce weapons like the P-38 carbine and leave them "in the white" without evidence of where metal has been added or where welding has occurred. All the original lettering on both guns are crisp and clear. No evidence of buffing whatsoever. Both guns pictured are without any finish of any kind, just a special treatment to the metal to prevent rusting. Both guns were created over 25+ years ago, and have had no special care. There are no signs of deterioration.