ID info on my newly inherited Luger

bmtmeteng · 05-26-2009, 08:21 PM

Brand new to this forum as I just acquired what I was always told was a Luger that Grandpa picked up in WW1. Now that I have it, I have been researching somewhat on the web and ran accross Luger Forum so will untilize the experts here. I am not new to handguns but am to the Luger so will describe. Serial No 73580 and all components seem to match though I don't find numbers on the clip. DWM in script on the top. Lazy N and crown on the left side. Germany on the right front near the barrel. Pencil down the barrel measuring technique shows approx 97mm. From what I have read on the web, there are no other improtant marks on the gun. Any help in identifying this more precisely would be appreciated.

Thanx,
Tom

sheepherder · 05-26-2009, 09:27 PM

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Originally Posted by bmtmeteng

...Pencil down the barrel measuring technique shows approx 97mm...

So...It's an anti-tank gun???

97mm...that's 3.8 inches...

OK, all kidding aside...Pics are needed!

Ron Wood · 05-26-2009, 10:36 PM

The serial number, proof and caliber would indicate a "1914 Commercial". A relatively scarce gun (actually produced in 1913 but misnamed by collectors). Photos will help provide a more positive identification.

bmtmeteng · 05-26-2009, 10:55 PM

Thanx, will try to get some photos uploaded and sent this week.

bmtmeteng · 05-27-2009, 10:41 AM

I think the photos are attached to help identify this pistol as a 1914 Commercial. Will answer any questions regarding markings or take a better close-up if needed.

John Sabato · 05-27-2009, 03:55 PM

A little out of focus, but now that you have the hang of posting photos... give it another try in better light conditions... perhaps outside on an overcast day... use macro mode if your camera allows that.

bmtmeteng · 05-27-2009, 10:24 PM

I am still learning to improve the photos but these are better than the previous post.

bmtmeteng · 05-30-2009, 04:33 PM

Was hoping someone could confirm this was most likely a 1914 Commercial Luger now that my photos have improved.

Thanx,
Tom

lugerholsterrepair · 05-30-2009, 05:07 PM

Tom, Commercials are not my specialty but it IS a commercial. With the Crown N, 5 digit serial # and the Germany mark in 9MM I would suspect this pistol is a Weimar era pistol exported to the US after 1919-1930. I would have to drag out my books to say exactly what this makes it. Better to wait for Ron Wood. He can tell you off the top of his head. I will be interested to know myself.

Jerry Burney

Ron Wood · 05-30-2009, 05:56 PM

From all indications, it is a 1914 Commercial. The lazy Crown/N on the left side of the toggle link is a proper characteristic, but a closeup shot of the left side of the receiver (just like the one of the right side with the GERMANY mark) is needed to see the lazy Crown/N commercial proof. None of you photos show this mark and it should be there.

05-26-2009, 08:21 PM	#1
bmtmeteng User Join Date: May 2009 Location: Missouri Posts: 7 Thanks: 2 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	ID info on my newly inherited Luger Brand new to this forum as I just acquired what I was always told was a Luger that Grandpa picked up in WW1. Now that I have it, I have been researching somewhat on the web and ran accross Luger Forum so will untilize the experts here. I am not new to handguns but am to the Luger so will describe. Serial No 73580 and all components seem to match though I don't find numbers on the clip. DWM in script on the top. Lazy N and crown on the left side. Germany on the right front near the barrel. Pencil down the barrel measuring technique shows approx 97mm. From what I have read on the web, there are no other improtant marks on the gun. Any help in identifying this more precisely would be appreciated. Thanx, Tom

05-26-2009, 10:36 PM	#3
Ron Wood Moderator 2010 LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Santa Teresa New Mexico just outside of the West Texas town of El Paso Posts: 6,988 Thanks: 1,067 Thanked 5,099 Times in 1,676 Posts	The serial number, proof and caliber would indicate a "1914 Commercial". A relatively scarce gun (actually produced in 1913 but misnamed by collectors). Photos will help provide a more positive identification. __________________ If it's made after 1918...it's a reproduction

05-27-2009, 10:41 AM	#5
bmtmeteng User Join Date: May 2009 Location: Missouri Posts: 7 Thanks: 2 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	I think the photos are attached to help identify this pistol as a 1914 Commercial. Will answer any questions regarding markings or take a better close-up if needed. Attached Thumbnails Attached Images

05-27-2009, 03:55 PM	#6
John Sabato Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: The Capital of the Free World Posts: 10,152 Thanks: 3,003 Thanked 2,304 Times in 1,096 Posts	A little out of focus, but now that you have the hang of posting photos... give it another try in better light conditions... perhaps outside on an overcast day... use macro mode if your camera allows that. __________________ regards, -John S "...We hold these truths to be self-evident that ALL men are created EQUAL *and are endowed by their Creator* with certain UNALIENABLE* rights, and among these are life, LIBERTY, and the pursuit of happiness..."*

05-27-2009, 10:24 PM	#7
bmtmeteng User Join Date: May 2009 Location: Missouri Posts: 7 Thanks: 2 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	better photos of the 1914 Commercial Luger I am still learning to improve the photos but these are better than the previous post. Attached Images

05-26-2009, 10:55 PM	#4
bmtmeteng User Join Date: May 2009 Location: Missouri Posts: 7 Thanks: 2 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Thanx, will try to get some photos uploaded and sent this week.

05-30-2009, 04:33 PM	#8
bmtmeteng User Join Date: May 2009 Location: Missouri Posts: 7 Thanks: 2 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Was hoping someone could confirm this was most likely a 1914 Commercial Luger now that my photos have improved. Thanx, Tom

05-30-2009, 05:07 PM	#9
lugerholsterrepair Moderator Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Arizona/Colorado Posts: 7,763 Thanks: 4,865 Thanked 3,105 Times in 1,429 Posts	Tom, Commercials are not my specialty but it IS a commercial. With the Crown N, 5 digit serial # and the Germany mark in 9MM I would suspect this pistol is a Weimar era pistol exported to the US after 1919-1930. I would have to drag out my books to say exactly what this makes it. Better to wait for Ron Wood. He can tell you off the top of his head. I will be interested to know myself. Jerry Burney __________________ Jerry Burney 11491 S. Guadalupe Drive Yuma AZ 85367-6182 lugerholsterrepair@earthlink.net 928 342-7583 (CO & AZ) Year Round 719 207-3331 (cell) "For those who Fight For It, Life has a flavor the protected will never know."

05-30-2009, 05:56 PM	#10
Ron Wood Moderator 2010 LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Santa Teresa New Mexico just outside of the West Texas town of El Paso Posts: 6,988 Thanks: 1,067 Thanked 5,099 Times in 1,676 Posts	From all indications, it is a 1914 Commercial. The lazy Crown/N on the left side of the toggle link is a proper characteristic, but a closeup shot of the left side of the receiver (just like the one of the right side with the GERMANY mark) is needed to see the lazy Crown/N commercial proof. None of you photos show this mark and it should be there. __________________ If it's made after 1918...it's a reproduction