DWM 1911 Namibia

Vlim · 03-08-2009, 02:54 PM

Nice, the ammunition appears to have been made at the Spandau state arsenal.

Piet · 03-08-2009, 03:09 PM

Gerben,
Any more information on Spandau? What makes you think that the ammo was manufactured there?
Piet

Vlim · 03-08-2009, 03:15 PM

Piet,

Basically, the 'S' code on the head stamp and the 'S' and 'Sp' references on the labels.

Piet · 03-09-2009, 03:07 PM

It seems as if one has to become a specialist in photography before one can study Lugers. I cannot find any other markings on the magazines (or maybe I haven't loked well enough?) Should there be?
Piet

George Anderson · 03-09-2009, 04:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Piet

It seems as if one has to become a specialist in photography before one can study Lugers. I cannot find any other markings on the magazines (or maybe I haven't loked well enough?) Should there be?
Piet

Piet, the magazine markings on the wooden base that you show would be the only markings one would expect to find.

Piet · 03-11-2009, 01:55 PM

I had an "interview" with my father to try and find out more information about the Luger.
His story is as follows:
My Great grandfather Gert Hermias van Zyl, died at a early age of 44 years. Striked by lightning on the farm Doornpan, near Schweizer Reneke, in the North West Province on 17 January 1917. His wife (my great grandmother) married again to Jacob Johannes Malan (lived 19/4/1881 to 7/3/1963) He was involved in the British battle against Germany in the German Colony of Deutsch Sud West Afrika (I hope I have this right) Jacob (Jaap) was a Sergeant in the Army of General Smuts (South Africa). At that stage South Africa was a British Colony and entered the fight on the order of the Queen of England.
According to my father, Jaap and his fellow soldiers encountered a German machine gun post. They took control of the post (which was the German Landes Polizei, according to various Lugerforum members).
From here on, there are two versions of the story.
The first is, that Jaap took the German Sergeant as a prisoner of war. During the scuffle, the German took out his Luger, and shot Jaap through the side of his jaw. The Luger was retrieved from the German, and Jaap brought it back to South Africa. Jaap underwent surgery, and had a "plate' fixed in his palate.
The second version is that he "arrested" the German, and was wounded in a later incident during the same war.
We think that this happened in or near 1914
The Luger was inhereted by Jan Fouche van Zyl (the step son of Jaap, and brother of my grandfather Pieter van Zyl). My father (Matthys Christoffel van Zyl) then inhereted the Luger, and gave it to me about 11 years ago.
Piet

03-09-2009, 03:07 PM	#4
Piet User Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: South Africa Posts: 143 Thanks: 155 Thanked 35 Times in 22 Posts	Magazine markings It seems as if one has to become a specialist in photography before one can study Lugers. I cannot find any other markings on the magazines (or maybe I haven't loked well enough?) Should there be? Piet

03-11-2009, 01:55 PM	#6
Piet User Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: South Africa Posts: 143 Thanks: 155 Thanked 35 Times in 22 Posts	History I had an "interview" with my father to try and find out more information about the Luger. His story is as follows: My Great grandfather Gert Hermias van Zyl, died at a early age of 44 years. Striked by lightning on the farm Doornpan, near Schweizer Reneke, in the North West Province on 17 January 1917. His wife (my great grandmother) married again to Jacob Johannes Malan (lived 19/4/1881 to 7/3/1963) He was involved in the British battle against Germany in the German Colony of Deutsch Sud West Afrika (I hope I have this right) Jacob (Jaap) was a Sergeant in the Army of General Smuts (South Africa). At that stage South Africa was a British Colony and entered the fight on the order of the Queen of England. According to my father, Jaap and his fellow soldiers encountered a German machine gun post. They took control of the post (which was the German Landes Polizei, according to various Lugerforum members). From here on, there are two versions of the story. The first is, that Jaap took the German Sergeant as a prisoner of war. During the scuffle, the German took out his Luger, and shot Jaap through the side of his jaw. The Luger was retrieved from the German, and Jaap brought it back to South Africa. Jaap underwent surgery, and had a "plate' fixed in his palate. The second version is that he "arrested" the German, and was wounded in a later incident during the same war. We think that this happened in or near 1914 The Luger was inhereted by Jan Fouche van Zyl (the step son of Jaap, and brother of my grandfather Pieter van Zyl). My father (Matthys Christoffel van Zyl) then inhereted the Luger, and gave it to me about 11 years ago. Piet Last edited by Piet; 10-21-2009 at 01:19 PM. Reason: Date was corrected

03-08-2009, 02:54 PM	#1
Vlim Moderator Lifetime LugerForum Patron Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Europe Posts: 5,053 Thanks: 1,036 Thanked 3,990 Times in 1,205 Posts	Nice, the ammunition appears to have been made at the Spandau state arsenal.

03-08-2009, 03:09 PM	#2
Piet User Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: South Africa Posts: 143 Thanks: 155 Thanked 35 Times in 22 Posts	Gerben, Any more information on Spandau? What makes you think that the ammo was manufactured there? Piet

03-08-2009, 03:15 PM	#3
Vlim Moderator Lifetime LugerForum Patron Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Europe Posts: 5,053 Thanks: 1,036 Thanked 3,990 Times in 1,205 Posts	Piet, Basically, the 'S' code on the head stamp and the 'S' and 'Sp' references on the labels.