copy of driver's license req'd to sell to dealer?

DavidJayUden · 02-22-2009, 11:11 AM

I recently shipped a handgun via UPS 2nd day air to the high bidder's FFL dealer in OK City. Now that dealer is calling me and wanting a blown up photocopy of my driver's license, supposedly so that he can log it in.
I've never been asked that before and quite honestly he's creeping me out.
Is this common practice, is it required by law, or can I tell him to take a hike?
DJU

Edward Tinker · 02-22-2009, 11:20 AM

There is no where that it says it is "required", however, he by law has to know who he is receiving it from; so although it weirded me out when someone asked; as I had already sent my FFL 03 to them...

Ed

marshombre · 02-22-2009, 01:12 PM

In my state (FL) any FFL-01 holder has to have a DL from the seller to log in a transfer. I was in a local gun store that a customer had a HK-91 clone delivered to that he had purchased off of Gunbroker. The rifle was shipped without a bill of sale or copy of sellers DL. When contacted, the seller refused to send his ID. The shops owner had no choice but to call the ATFE to pick up what was now a contraband rifle and the buyer was out nearly $1000. MR

alvin · 02-24-2009, 08:16 AM

IMO, just send a copy of driver's license to him. Not a big deal. Just like selling a house, "open house" session is inavoidable (I heard fore-clousure has different procedure?), legal gun sellers have to sacrifice a little bit privacy. But only send to FFL holders, you have their licenses verified on ATF website. Sending via snail USPS mail to the licensed address.

DavidJayUden · 02-24-2009, 09:10 AM

OK, I'll do this just to keep everyone happy...
DJU

Edward Tinker · 02-24-2009, 11:19 AM

David, that is what I did too, it irritated me, but was easier to just play their game

Ed

DavidJayUden · 02-24-2009, 01:11 PM

I did it. But I did not enjoy it.
DJU

vtwoodchuck · 02-24-2009, 03:18 PM

I went to my local dealer yesterday to pick up a modern rifle bought off GunBroker and now you have to have 2 forms of ID showing your street address. Everything in my wallet had only my P.O. address. I ended up using my property tax papers for ID plus the C & R license which has my street address. My dealer has known me for years as well as where I live. Doug

jamese · 02-27-2009, 06:31 AM

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The rifle was shipped without a bill of sale or copy of sellers DL. When contacted, the seller refused to send his ID. The shops owner had no choice but to call the ATFE to pick up what was now a contraband rifle and the buyer was out nearly $1000.

MR,
If an FFL-03 or 01 dealer sends a gun to another dealer (transfer) and is done w/o a bill of sale, how does it become a contraband.

Maybe I'm missing something here

Jim

marshombre · 02-27-2009, 04:37 PM

Jim, The seller shipped the rifle from a UPS store not telling the clerk that there was a rifle in the box. It arrived at the gunshop with a handwritten note to the buyer, nothing else. For whatever reason the seller tried to do an end run around the whole legal transfer process. MR

02-22-2009, 11:11 AM	#1
DavidJayUden Patron LugerForum Patron Join Date: Nov 2008 Posts: 4,047 Thanks: 578 Thanked 1,414 Times in 887 Posts	copy of driver's license req'd to sell to dealer? I recently shipped a handgun via UPS 2nd day air to the high bidder's FFL dealer in OK City. Now that dealer is calling me and wanting a blown up photocopy of my driver's license, supposedly so that he can log it in. I've never been asked that before and quite honestly he's creeping me out. Is this common practice, is it required by law, or can I tell him to take a hike? DJU

02-24-2009, 03:18 PM	#8
vtwoodchuck User Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Morrisville, Vermont Posts: 68 Thanks: 0 Thanked 2 Times in 1 Post	I went to my local dealer yesterday to pick up a modern rifle bought off GunBroker and now you have to have 2 forms of ID showing your street address. Everything in my wallet had only my P.O. address. I ended up using my property tax papers for ID plus the C & R license which has my street address. My dealer has known me for years as well as where I live. Doug __________________ Doug

02-22-2009, 11:20 AM	#2
Edward Tinker Super Moderator Eternal Lifer LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: North of Spokane, WA Posts: 15,966 Thanks: 2,066 Thanked 4,595 Times in 2,116 Posts	There is no where that it says it is "required", however, he by law has to know who he is receiving it from; so although it weirded me out when someone asked; as I had already sent my FFL 03 to them... Ed

02-22-2009, 01:12 PM	#3
marshombre User Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: W Central FL Posts: 98 Thanks: 13 Thanked 20 Times in 11 Posts	In my state (FL) any FFL-01 holder has to have a DL from the seller to log in a transfer. I was in a local gun store that a customer had a HK-91 clone delivered to that he had purchased off of Gunbroker. The rifle was shipped without a bill of sale or copy of sellers DL. When contacted, the seller refused to send his ID. The shops owner had no choice but to call the ATFE to pick up what was now a contraband rifle and the buyer was out nearly $1000. MR

02-24-2009, 08:16 AM	#4
alvin User Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: US Posts: 3,843 Thanks: 132 Thanked 729 Times in 438 Posts	IMO, just send a copy of driver's license to him. Not a big deal. Just like selling a house, "open house" session is inavoidable (I heard fore-clousure has different procedure?), legal gun sellers have to sacrifice a little bit privacy. But only send to FFL holders, you have their licenses verified on ATF website. Sending via snail USPS mail to the licensed address.

02-24-2009, 09:10 AM	#5
DavidJayUden Patron LugerForum Patron Join Date: Nov 2008 Posts: 4,047 Thanks: 578 Thanked 1,414 Times in 887 Posts	OK, I'll do this just to keep everyone happy... DJU

02-24-2009, 11:19 AM	#6
Edward Tinker Super Moderator Eternal Lifer LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: North of Spokane, WA Posts: 15,966 Thanks: 2,066 Thanked 4,595 Times in 2,116 Posts	David, that is what I did too, it irritated me, but was easier to just play their game Ed

02-24-2009, 01:11 PM	#7
DavidJayUden Patron LugerForum Patron Join Date: Nov 2008 Posts: 4,047 Thanks: 578 Thanked 1,414 Times in 887 Posts	I did it. But I did not enjoy it. DJU

02-27-2009, 04:37 PM	#10
marshombre User Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: W Central FL Posts: 98 Thanks: 13 Thanked 20 Times in 11 Posts	Jim, The seller shipped the rifle from a UPS store not telling the clerk that there was a rifle in the box. It arrived at the gunshop with a handwritten note to the buyer, nothing else. For whatever reason the seller tried to do an end run around the whole legal transfer process. MR