Help with identifying Luger

chris69 · 01-17-2009, 05:47 PM

I hope to get some help identifying this Luger . A friend of mine purchased two Lugers , this one of them. I know it is going to be hard to say anything from picture only. I will welcome any comments.
Regards, Kris

Ron Smith · 01-17-2009, 07:17 PM

Hi Chris,

Welcome. It looks like a nice and original 1918 DWM (Deutsche Waffenund Munitionsfabriken).

Imperial. The Death's Head is often touted as an SS or Concetration camp emblem. In actuality it is most likely a Freikorps (post WWI) Nationalist Militia emblem. There is also a thought that it is a Flamethrower unit marking.

There are some who believe that they are all fakes. I don't necessarily agree with this theory.

There are a great number of these floating around that have been faked and promoted as SS pistols. I'm not an expert on DH marks, but this one looks original.

Ron

chris69 · 01-17-2009, 08:03 PM

Hello Ron.Thank You for Your reply.As a said before a good friend of mine bought it (he ownes a gun store)He is a good man and before he sells it he wanted to check its originality.He is not a member of the forum so I am kind of doing his homework.If anyone (member )is interested I can give his number to discussed the details and he will be happy to answer Your questions.I will also try to post a nice double date here ( for me it is learning expirence) so please comment on it .REgards Kris

chris69 · 01-17-2009, 08:18 PM

Here are the pics of double date Luger.Please let me know what you think.
Regards, Kris

MFC · 01-18-2009, 12:35 AM

1320???
That's the earliest property mark I've ever seen.

Probably a broken die or a drunken German.
It was put into Police service during the Weimar era.

tenbears · 01-18-2009, 12:34 PM

Can you tell us where or what state the death head came from? This one looks good to me.

chris69 · 01-18-2009, 01:06 PM

hello.Thank You for Your replies.Both guns came from a collection in NJ I think.Here is the number to the store and recent owner:JIM ....973 942 64 64.His store is open from 10 am and his long days are on wed and friday.Good luck.REgards Kris

01-17-2009, 05:47 PM	#1
chris69 User Join Date: Feb 2003 Posts: 24 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Help with identifying Luger I hope to get some help identifying this Luger . A friend of mine purchased two Lugers , this one of them. I know it is going to be hard to say anything from picture only. I will welcome any comments. Regards, Kris Attached Thumbnails

01-17-2009, 07:17 PM	#2
Ron Smith User Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Orygun Posts: 4,243 Thanks: 118 Thanked 245 Times in 150 Posts	Hi Chris, Welcome. It looks like a nice and original 1918 DWM (Deutsche Waffenund Munitionsfabriken). Imperial. The Death's Head is often touted as an SS or Concetration camp emblem. In actuality it is most likely a Freikorps (post WWI) Nationalist Militia emblem. There is also a thought that it is a Flamethrower unit marking. There are some who believe that they are all fakes. I don't necessarily agree with this theory. There are a great number of these floating around that have been faked and promoted as SS pistols. I'm not an expert on DH marks, but this one looks original. Ron __________________ I Still Need DWM side plate #49... if anyone runs across a nice one. What ~Rudyard Kipling~ said...

01-17-2009, 08:18 PM	#4
chris69 User Join Date: Feb 2003 Posts: 24 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Double date Luger pics Here are the pics of double date Luger.Please let me know what you think. Regards, Kris Attached Thumbnails

01-18-2009, 12:35 AM	#5
MFC User Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Louisiana Posts: 1,237 Thanks: 183 Thanked 281 Times in 162 Posts	1320??? That's the earliest property mark I've ever seen. Probably a broken die or a drunken German. It was put into Police service during the Weimar era. __________________ Mike C.

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tenbears User Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 370 Thanks: 3 Thanked 26 Times in 15 Posts	Can you tell us where or what state the death head came from? This one looks good to me. Last edited by tenbears; 01-18-2009 at 02:52 PM.

01-17-2009, 08:03 PM	#3
chris69 User Join Date: Feb 2003 Posts: 24 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Hello Ron.Thank You for Your reply.As a said before a good friend of mine bought it (he ownes a gun store)He is a good man and before he sells it he wanted to check its originality.He is not a member of the forum so I am kind of doing his homework.If anyone (member )is interested I can give his number to discussed the details and he will be happy to answer Your questions.I will also try to post a nice double date here ( for me it is learning expirence) so please comment on it .REgards Kris

01-18-2009, 01:06 PM	#7
chris69 User Join Date: Feb 2003 Posts: 24 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	hello.Thank You for Your replies.Both guns came from a collection in NJ I think.Here is the number to the store and recent owner:JIM ....973 942 64 64.His store is open from 10 am and his long days are on wed and friday.Good luck.REgards Kris