"Not a real Walther"

alvin · 01-05-2009, 07:21 AM

I have deeper questions on proof and antler stamp....need help from domain experts:

(1) As shown in the above West Germany P1, it has both Eagle over N commercial proof, and Ulm antler mark. May I assume the gun was proofed twice? E/N stamped in factory, and antler stamped in the outside proof house, probably later.

Also, E/N and antler appear on H&K P7.

(2) Even more interesting is early Mauser C96. It always has C/C/U on left side of the chamber. I would assume that's equivalent of E/N, in Mauser style. On early Mauser, the gun also has an antler on the right side of the chamber. I heard that's "Oberndorf Proof House Mark". The C/C/U does not show halo, supposed to be applied in the factory before the gun was blued. The antler stamp has halo (see a sample gun picture attached), obviously applied after the gun being blued. Looks like it was proofed twice.... once in "white" steel while in factory, and once in finished form in the proof house.

Make any sense?

01-05-2009, 07:21 AM	#14
alvin User Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: US Posts: 3,843 Thanks: 132 Thanked 729 Times in 438 Posts	I have deeper questions on proof and antler stamp....need help from domain experts: (1) As shown in the above West Germany P1, it has both Eagle over N commercial proof, and Ulm antler mark. May I assume the gun was proofed twice? E/N stamped in factory, and antler stamped in the outside proof house, probably later. Also, E/N and antler appear on H&K P7. (2) Even more interesting is early Mauser C96. It always has C/C/U on left side of the chamber. I would assume that's equivalent of E/N, in Mauser style. On early Mauser, the gun also has an antler on the right side of the chamber. I heard that's "Oberndorf Proof House Mark". The C/C/U does not show halo, supposed to be applied in the factory before the gun was blued. The antler stamp has halo (see a sample gun picture attached), obviously applied after the gun being blued. Looks like it was proofed twice.... once in "white" steel while in factory, and once in finished form in the proof house. Make any sense? Attached Thumbnails Last edited by alvin; 01-05-2009 at 08:32 AM.