What is the function of this slot?

bobcam1 · 10-21-2008, 05:14 PM

I'm curious as to the purpose of this part (circled) of my Mauser's frame.

Thanks in advance for the help.

Cheers,
Bob.

policeluger · 10-21-2008, 05:30 PM

Board stock....

bobcam1 · 10-21-2008, 05:42 PM

Ah....Thanks very much!

Bob.

John Sabato · 10-21-2008, 05:43 PM

Bob, Please do a search on "stock lugs" and find out the facts on legal issues with stocks if you are not already familiar with them.

Rod WMG · 10-21-2008, 09:09 PM

Bob, also in your search you'll note at least one other application of the lug. I'll not reveal what it is; it'll be more fun for you to discover it.

DaveinTN · 10-22-2008, 09:24 PM

I think it's cruel to keep Bobcam1 waiting.....

The "slot" is intended for the attachment of a shoulder stock thusly:

bobcam1 · 10-22-2008, 11:36 PM

Thank you...

I'm grateful to all who responded here, and by PM'ing me....Some of the responses led me to some interesting research...

Cheers,
Bob.

alanint · 10-23-2008, 03:15 AM

But what about the second use for a stock lug??

I seem to remember it was used for securing the frame during part of the manufacturing procedure, but don't remember any details.....

alanint · 10-23-2008, 05:51 AM

Neither, I'm nothing more than a reasonably read individual.

I seem to recall, however, having read somewhere that the stock lug was also used a a jig during the manufacturing process.

Can forum experts please comment?

Vlim · 10-23-2008, 09:22 AM

Alan,

You are correct. It has been discussed as a possible option before, but sadly there is no conclusive evidence (like photographic evidence) that it was used that way during production.

@Tac: I've seen quite a number of recent postings where your replies are of a rather negative nature, almost appearing to attack people who did nothing wrong. I would appreciate a bit more of a 'laid back' attitude rather than giving people the idea that you are attacking them. Mutual respect is what keeps this forum a nice place.

Lugerdoc · 10-23-2008, 09:45 AM

Tac, Other than Aimco in Texas, who was the other US manufacturer? TH

John Sabato · 10-23-2008, 09:53 AM

If I had to guess, I believe that TAC refers to the STOEGER implementation of a LUGER .22 automatic... as far from the original creation as it was, it certainly was a Luger since the name is trademarked to Stoeger in this country...

If I am wrong in my belief... then maybe there are 3 former manufacturers of Lugers in the USA? TAC? can you expand this line of thought?

Ron Wood · 10-23-2008, 10:17 AM

Tac,
The Mitchell Arms guns were made by Aimco. In fact, all of the stainless Lugers regardless of "brand" were made by Aimco.

GerColctor · 10-25-2008, 06:34 PM

Like Alan I also read that the stock lug feature was found to be helpful in holding the frame during production of the Luger. Allegedly that is the reason why this piece of the frame was retained throughout it's German manufacturing history (1913-1945). Even the Krieghoffs Lugers had it on thier frames thru 1945.

The original intention of adding the lug in 1913 was to connect the board stock, but that need ended in 1918 and the military never ordered anymore LP-08s.

It took a long time to manufacturer a Luger by Mauser, so if there was no longer any practical need for the stock lug (as the board stocks were not issued) they would have eliminated it to save time and raw material. One of the things they try to do in any manufacturing is to make the product faster and cheaper, so they try to eliminate parts and steps, if possible.

Maybe the machinery from DWM was still being used and to change it would be too expensive.

Base upon what was written above, there are no available pictures that might substantiate this theory. If the lug was not needed during manufacturing and board stocks were no longer issued with these pistols, why keep it?
Joe

Rod WMG · 10-26-2008, 10:47 AM

I suppose my feeble brain is playing tricks on me again. I thought I had seen a photo posted here on the board of a luger held by the lug for factory assembly/finishing.

10-21-2008, 05:14 PM	#1
bobcam1 User Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 92 Thanks: 0 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post	What is the function of this slot? I'm curious as to the purpose of this part (circled) of my Mauser's frame. Thanks in advance for the help. Cheers, Bob.

10-21-2008, 05:43 PM	#4
John Sabato Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: The Capital of the Free World Posts: 10,156 Thanks: 3,003 Thanked 2,308 Times in 1,098 Posts	Bob, Please do a search on "stock lugs" and find out the facts on legal issues with stocks if you are not already familiar with them. __________________ regards, -John S "...We hold these truths to be self-evident that ALL men are created EQUAL *and are endowed by their Creator* with certain UNALIENABLE* rights, and among these are life, LIBERTY, and the pursuit of happiness..."*

10-22-2008, 09:24 PM	#6
DaveinTN User Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Tennessee Posts: 186 Thanks: 3 Thanked 15 Times in 11 Posts	I think it's cruel to keep Bobcam1 waiting..... The "slot" is intended for the attachment of a shoulder stock thusly: Attached Images

10-23-2008, 09:45 AM	#11
Lugerdoc Patron LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: POB 398 St.Charles,MO. 63302 Posts: 5,089 Thanks: 6 Thanked 737 Times in 484 Posts	Tac, Other than Aimco in Texas, who was the other US manufacturer? TH __________________ Tom Heller POB 398 ST.Charles, MO. 63302 Tel 636-447-3006 lugerdoc@charter.net

10-23-2008, 09:53 AM	#12
John Sabato Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: The Capital of the Free World Posts: 10,156 Thanks: 3,003 Thanked 2,308 Times in 1,098 Posts	If I had to guess, I believe that TAC refers to the STOEGER implementation of a LUGER .22 automatic... as far from the original creation as it was, it certainly was a Luger since the name is trademarked to Stoeger in this country... If I am wrong in my belief... then maybe there are 3 former manufacturers of Lugers in the USA? TAC? can you expand this line of thought? __________________ regards, -John S "...We hold these truths to be self-evident that ALL men are created EQUAL *and are endowed by their Creator* with certain UNALIENABLE* rights, and among these are life, LIBERTY, and the pursuit of happiness..."*

10-21-2008, 05:30 PM	#2
policeluger RIP Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Ca. Posts: 2,141 Thanks: 8 Thanked 89 Times in 54 Posts	Board stock....

10-21-2008, 05:42 PM	#3
bobcam1 User Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 92 Thanks: 0 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post	Ah....Thanks very much! Bob.

10-21-2008, 09:09 PM	#5
Rod WMG User Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: The Edge of Texas Posts: 514 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Bob, also in your search you'll note at least one other application of the lug. I'll not reveal what it is; it'll be more fun for you to discover it.

10-22-2008, 11:36 PM	#7
bobcam1 User Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 92 Thanks: 0 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post	Thank you... I'm grateful to all who responded here, and by PM'ing me....Some of the responses led me to some interesting research... Cheers, Bob.

10-23-2008, 03:15 AM	#8
alanint User Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Marco Island, Florida Posts: 4,867 Thanks: 1,685 Thanked 1,917 Times in 1,193 Posts	But what about the second use for a stock lug?? I seem to remember it was used for securing the frame during part of the manufacturing procedure, but don't remember any details.....

10-23-2008, 05:51 AM	#9
alanint User Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Marco Island, Florida Posts: 4,867 Thanks: 1,685 Thanked 1,917 Times in 1,193 Posts	Neither, I'm nothing more than a reasonably read individual. I seem to recall, however, having read somewhere that the stock lug was also used a a jig during the manufacturing process. Can forum experts please comment?

10-23-2008, 09:22 AM	#10
Vlim Moderator Lifetime LugerForum Patron Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Europe Posts: 5,053 Thanks: 1,036 Thanked 3,990 Times in 1,205 Posts	Alan, You are correct. It has been discussed as a possible option before, but sadly there is no conclusive evidence (like photographic evidence) that it was used that way during production. @Tac: I've seen quite a number of recent postings where your replies are of a rather negative nature, almost appearing to attack people who did nothing wrong. I would appreciate a bit more of a 'laid back' attitude rather than giving people the idea that you are attacking them. Mutual respect is what keeps this forum a nice place.

10-23-2008, 10:17 AM	#13
Ron Wood Moderator 2010 LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Santa Teresa New Mexico just outside of the West Texas town of El Paso Posts: 7,040 Thanks: 1,106 Thanked 5,257 Times in 1,724 Posts	Tac, The Mitchell Arms guns were made by Aimco. In fact, all of the stainless Lugers regardless of "brand" were made by Aimco. __________________ If it's made after 1918...it's a reproduction

10-25-2008, 06:34 PM	#14
GerColctor User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: CT & FL Posts: 315 Thanks: 2 Thanked 48 Times in 31 Posts	Like Alan I also read that the stock lug feature was found to be helpful in holding the frame during production of the Luger. Allegedly that is the reason why this piece of the frame was retained throughout it's German manufacturing history (1913-1945). Even the Krieghoffs Lugers had it on thier frames thru 1945. The original intention of adding the lug in 1913 was to connect the board stock, but that need ended in 1918 and the military never ordered anymore LP-08s. It took a long time to manufacturer a Luger by Mauser, so if there was no longer any practical need for the stock lug (as the board stocks were not issued) they would have eliminated it to save time and raw material. One of the things they try to do in any manufacturing is to make the product faster and cheaper, so they try to eliminate parts and steps, if possible. Maybe the machinery from DWM was still being used and to change it would be too expensive. Base upon what was written above, there are no available pictures that might substantiate this theory. If the lug was not needed during manufacturing and board stocks were no longer issued with these pistols, why keep it? Joe __________________ It is better to have lived a day as a tiger, then a thousand years as a lamb.

10-26-2008, 10:47 AM	#15
Rod WMG User Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: The Edge of Texas Posts: 514 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	I suppose my feeble brain is playing tricks on me again. I thought I had seen a photo posted here on the board of a luger held by the lug for factory assembly/finishing.