commercial/Erfurt Artillery

ken d · 09-06-2008, 03:30 PM

Erfurt Artillery with Siamese frame marks on Gunbroker? Parts gun?

http://gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewIte...Item=108731816

Ken D

Ron Smith · 09-06-2008, 03:35 PM

Hi Ken,

It's a reblued parts gun. Erfurt was out of the picture by the end of the war. DWM was the only maker of commercial exports in the early 20s.

Ron

ken d · 09-06-2008, 03:46 PM

Thanks Ron. I didn't think any commercial Lugers were produced at Erfurt.

Ken D

Lugerdoc · 09-07-2008, 08:54 AM

I believe that Thailand did receive some WW1 Surplus PO8s after WW1, as I've seen several with the Thai Police "Lion's head" marking on the rear of the frame. TH

TooTech · 09-07-2008, 02:26 PM

I can see that the fonts used for the serial numbers are different: rounded top on the "3" on the frame, receiver, take-down lever, trigger bar, safety lever, etc., versus the flat-topped "3" on the barrel, sideplate, front and rear sections of the toggle, rear sight base and slider, etc.

So it's either force matched, or an upper from an artillery Erfurt put on a lower with a matching number(?!).

Also, is it correct for the front section of the toggle, the part with the "Erfurt" stamp, to have a "37" on the SIDE versus the top?

ken d · 09-07-2008, 04:23 PM

TooTech:
Don't know about the correctness of the "37" on the toggle but with a parts gun any thing is possible. If not surplus received after WW1, the toggle should have been marked with a Mauser Banner.

Ken D

09-06-2008, 03:30 PM	#1
ken d Patron LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: louisville ky Posts: 277 Thanks: 31 Thanked 9 Times in 8 Posts	commercial/Erfurt Artillery Erfurt Artillery with Siamese frame marks on Gunbroker? Parts gun? http://gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewIte...Item=108731816 Ken D

09-06-2008, 03:35 PM	#2
Ron Smith User Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Orygun Posts: 4,243 Thanks: 118 Thanked 245 Times in 150 Posts	Hi Ken, It's a reblued parts gun. Erfurt was out of the picture by the end of the war. DWM was the only maker of commercial exports in the early 20s. Ron __________________ I Still Need DWM side plate #49... if anyone runs across a nice one. What ~Rudyard Kipling~ said...

09-07-2008, 08:54 AM	#4
Lugerdoc Patron LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: POB 398 St.Charles,MO. 63302 Posts: 5,089 Thanks: 6 Thanked 736 Times in 483 Posts	I believe that Thailand did receive some WW1 Surplus PO8s after WW1, as I've seen several with the Thai Police "Lion's head" marking on the rear of the frame. TH __________________ Tom Heller POB 398 ST.Charles, MO. 63302 Tel 636-447-3006 lugerdoc@charter.net

09-06-2008, 03:46 PM	#3
ken d Patron LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: louisville ky Posts: 277 Thanks: 31 Thanked 9 Times in 8 Posts	Thanks Ron. I didn't think any commercial Lugers were produced at Erfurt. Ken D

09-07-2008, 02:26 PM	#5
TooTech User Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Minnesota Posts: 23 Thanks: 1 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	I can see that the fonts used for the serial numbers are different: rounded top on the "3" on the frame, receiver, take-down lever, trigger bar, safety lever, etc., versus the flat-topped "3" on the barrel, sideplate, front and rear sections of the toggle, rear sight base and slider, etc. So it's either force matched, or an upper from an artillery Erfurt put on a lower with a matching number(?!). Also, is it correct for the front section of the toggle, the part with the "Erfurt" stamp, to have a "37" on the SIDE versus the top?

09-07-2008, 04:23 PM	#6
ken d Patron LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: louisville ky Posts: 277 Thanks: 31 Thanked 9 Times in 8 Posts	TooTech: Don't know about the correctness of the "37" on the toggle but with a parts gun any thing is possible. If not surplus received after WW1, the toggle should have been marked with a Mauser Banner. Ken D