Older magazine with ivory color plastic base. PICS added

Prince50 · 08-25-2008, 01:28 PM

Hello all, New to this forum.

I recently acquired a beautiful DWM 1918 P08 in VG condition. 75% finish remaining, no rust. All matching except for the toggle lock lever, that operates when the mag is empty. Is that a numbered part? Beautiful bore and I paid $800 for it.

I'm thrilled with it.

It came with repro stocks I'm sure, as they look really good for the age of the pistol, with all peaks sharp. Also I've noticed that standard stocks do not have a border around the edge, but have the checkering all the way to the pistol.

Most importantly, my Luger came with a very old magazine with a white/ ivory plastic base. It appears to have been blued at one time, but is now a brown patina color on the metal. Follower is steel.

The base has only one rivet and seems to move under spring pressure from the mainspring.

Any info on this type of mag?

Any value to it. I have replaced it with a CTD repro wood bottomed magazine and it looks great, and works great, but I know it is not original.

Anyway thanks in advance for any info.

Mauser720 · 08-25-2008, 02:19 PM

Prince50 -

Is there any way you can post pictures of the pistol and the magazine?

Mauser720 - Ron

LugerVern · 08-25-2008, 05:38 PM

I wonder if given enough time in the sun if the early plastic bottom magazines will bleach out?

Has anyone noticed discoloration of their mag bottoms?

Vern

Aaron · 08-25-2008, 05:57 PM

I'd like to know more about that holster. Did it come with the gun?

Prince50 · 08-25-2008, 06:13 PM

Yes the holster came with the pistol. It is marked on the back

"H.HARMS
Berlin
1933" Then in large numbers it has XXd out SMg674 and a new number stamped 9426

It holds the pistol, a loading tool in a seperate pouch inside the main flap, and a spare mag on the outside of the main pocket. Stiching is black, and it seems to have a repair on the locking strap. Chemical repair I think, as it is soft and smooth everywhere but it is hard in a tiny area of the locking flap.

Overall good condition, and included with the pistol as an afterthought. Free is always nice!

The mag bottom is not bleached, as you can see in the high def pics, it is white/ ivory everywhere, and I doubt it has spent any time in the sun.

Darin

George Anderson · 08-25-2008, 09:18 PM

Prince, the mag with white bottum is an original with a very cheesey plastic bottum installed. The magazine shown in the pistol appears to be a reproduction and the grips are reproductions of Swiss Luger grips,

Prince50 · 08-25-2008, 11:07 PM

George,

Thanks for the information.

The one in the gun is the CTD (Cheaper than dirt co.) reproduction. It works perfectly, and looks better than the old one with the white plastic bottom.

I feared the grips were repros. Can anyone help me find a correct pair?

Will this mag have any value to anyone in the trading post? I'd love to find a period correct unit.

Thanks

Aaron, You are in Vista. I'm in Bonsall. Let's go shooting! I belong to Rainbow range in Rainbow, just south of Temecula.

Darin

Aaron · 08-26-2008, 01:43 AM

Darin, let's get together and go shooting and talk guns, especially Lugers. Give me a call at (760) 402-3639 anytime.

Aaron

Lugerdoc · 08-26-2008, 08:24 AM

Price, I would guess that the white plastic mag bottom shown is marked inside "Franzite" or "Sportarms". I have these available in white, brown or black @$10 each. I may also have the correct numbered (last 2 digits of serial) HO device for your PO8, let me know serial. hellerarms@webtv.net

Prince50 · 08-26-2008, 10:23 AM

Aaron,

I'll call today.

LugerDoc,

I pulled the base and it is marked "Sports NC" "chicago"

Thanks for the info. I emailed you regarding the HO. Also, if you have wooden bases available I'd like to try and salvage this magazine.

Darin

MFC · 08-27-2008, 12:20 AM

Darin,
If your interested... I have a pair of original grips that were recheckered by Hugh Clark, our resident Lugerforum Gripmiester. $110.00 shipped. I can send pics if you'd like.
Mike C.

08-25-2008, 01:28 PM	#1
Prince50 User Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: San Diego Posts: 12 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Older magazine with ivory color plastic base. PICS added Hello all, New to this forum. I recently acquired a beautiful DWM 1918 P08 in VG condition. 75% finish remaining, no rust. All matching except for the toggle lock lever, that operates when the mag is empty. Is that a numbered part? Beautiful bore and I paid $800 for it. I'm thrilled with it. It came with repro stocks I'm sure, as they look really good for the age of the pistol, with all peaks sharp. Also I've noticed that standard stocks do not have a border around the edge, but have the checkering all the way to the pistol. Most importantly, my Luger came with a very old magazine with a white/ ivory plastic base. It appears to have been blued at one time, but is now a brown patina color on the metal. Follower is steel. The base has only one rivet and seems to move under spring pressure from the mainspring. Any info on this type of mag? Any value to it. I have replaced it with a CTD repro wood bottomed magazine and it looks great, and works great, but I know it is not original. Anyway thanks in advance for any info.

08-25-2008, 02:19 PM	#2
Mauser720 User Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Kansas Posts: 535 Thanks: 18 Thanked 49 Times in 33 Posts	Prince50 - Is there any way you can post pictures of the pistol and the magazine? Mauser720 - Ron __________________ Mauser720 - Ron "Those who do not know history are doomed to repeat it."

08-26-2008, 08:24 AM	#9
Lugerdoc Patron LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: POB 398 St.Charles,MO. 63302 Posts: 5,089 Thanks: 6 Thanked 736 Times in 483 Posts	Price, I would guess that the white plastic mag bottom shown is marked inside "Franzite" or "Sportarms". I have these available in white, brown or black @$10 each. I may also have the correct numbered (last 2 digits of serial) HO device for your PO8, let me know serial. hellerarms@webtv.net __________________ Tom Heller POB 398 ST.Charles, MO. 63302 Tel 636-447-3006 lugerdoc@charter.net

08-27-2008, 12:20 AM	#11
MFC User Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Louisiana Posts: 1,237 Thanks: 183 Thanked 281 Times in 162 Posts	Darin, If your interested... I have a pair of original grips that were recheckered by Hugh Clark, our resident Lugerforum Gripmiester. $110.00 shipped. I can send pics if you'd like. Mike C. __________________ Mike C.

08-25-2008, 05:38 PM	#3
LugerVern User Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Virginia Posts: 563 Thanks: 1 Thanked 34 Times in 27 Posts	I wonder if given enough time in the sun if the early plastic bottom magazines will bleach out? Has anyone noticed discoloration of their mag bottoms? Vern

08-25-2008, 05:57 PM	#4
Aaron Banned Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Vista, CA Posts: 1,008 Thanks: 0 Thanked 9 Times in 9 Posts	I'd like to know more about that holster. Did it come with the gun?

08-25-2008, 06:13 PM	#5
Prince50 User Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: San Diego Posts: 12 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Yes the holster came with the pistol. It is marked on the back "H.HARMS Berlin 1933" Then in large numbers it has XXd out SMg674 and a new number stamped 9426 It holds the pistol, a loading tool in a seperate pouch inside the main flap, and a spare mag on the outside of the main pocket. Stiching is black, and it seems to have a repair on the locking strap. Chemical repair I think, as it is soft and smooth everywhere but it is hard in a tiny area of the locking flap. Overall good condition, and included with the pistol as an afterthought. Free is always nice! The mag bottom is not bleached, as you can see in the high def pics, it is white/ ivory everywhere, and I doubt it has spent any time in the sun. Darin

08-25-2008, 09:18 PM	#6
George Anderson Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: VA Posts: 3,592 Thanks: 1,773 Thanked 2,527 Times in 786 Posts	Prince, the mag with white bottum is an original with a very cheesey plastic bottum installed. The magazine shown in the pistol appears to be a reproduction and the grips are reproductions of Swiss Luger grips,

08-25-2008, 11:07 PM	#7
Prince50 User Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: San Diego Posts: 12 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	George, Thanks for the information. The one in the gun is the CTD (Cheaper than dirt co.) reproduction. It works perfectly, and looks better than the old one with the white plastic bottom. I feared the grips were repros. Can anyone help me find a correct pair? Will this mag have any value to anyone in the trading post? I'd love to find a period correct unit. Thanks Aaron, You are in Vista. I'm in Bonsall. Let's go shooting! I belong to Rainbow range in Rainbow, just south of Temecula. Darin

08-26-2008, 01:43 AM	#8
Aaron Banned Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Vista, CA Posts: 1,008 Thanks: 0 Thanked 9 Times in 9 Posts	Darin, let's get together and go shooting and talk guns, especially Lugers. Give me a call at (760) 402-3639 anytime. Aaron

08-26-2008, 10:23 AM	#10
Prince50 User Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: San Diego Posts: 12 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Aaron, I'll call today. LugerDoc, I pulled the base and it is marked "Sports NC" "chicago" Thanks for the info. I emailed you regarding the HO. Also, if you have wooden bases available I'd like to try and salvage this magazine. Darin